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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    The "sudden destruction" from which unbelievers "will not escape" on the day of the Lord will be caused by fire coming down on the earth.

    Paul's focus is on believers to show them that it won't just be unbelievers that bow down before Christ on His judgment seat. Unlike you, I am not ignoring what Paul wrote in Romans 14:11 where he references Isaiah 45:22-24 which refers to unbelievers also bowing before Christ. Do you deny that...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    The "sudden destruction" from which unbelievers "will not escape" on the day of the Lord will be caused by fire coming down on the earth.

    Matthew 25:31-46 makes it very clear that believers will also be there. Not every passage about the judgment contains all of the details about it. Cherry picking scripture the way you do is a poor approach to interpreting scripture.
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    The "sudden destruction" from which unbelievers "will not escape" on the day of the Lord will be caused by fire coming down on the earth.

    This has nothing to do with OSAS. Why do you try to make everything about that? Matthew 25:31-46 very clearly portrays all people, saved and lost, being gathered at the same time before the judgment throne/seat of Christ to give an account of themselves after Jesus comes with His angels. Why do...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    The "sudden destruction" from which unbelievers "will not escape" on the day of the Lord will be caused by fire coming down on the earth.

    I obviously agree and can't comprehend how anyone could disagree. A judgment seat and judgment throne (as Matthew 25:31 mentions) are clearly the same thing. Obviously, you can't think that or else you'd be an amill. Yet, how is it possible that Matthew 25:41 is referring to something different...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    The "sudden destruction" from which unbelievers "will not escape" on the day of the Lord will be caused by fire coming down on the earth.

    Yes, I do. It will burn up the earth, as Peter said. He said nothing about the lake of fire in that verse. The judgment will occur after Jesus burns up the earth and that is when those whose names are not in the book of life will be cast into the lake of fire. More of your churchianity...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    The "sudden destruction" from which unbelievers "will not escape" on the day of the Lord will be caused by fire coming down on the earth.

    I sometimes wonder what Bible you are reading. You apparently think the fire mentioned in Revelation 20:9 (and 2 Peter 3:10-12) is the lake of fire? It is not. That occurs before the judgment which is when unbelievers will be cast into the lake of fire. Revelation 20:9 is not the same event as...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    This is the context of how Dan. 9:24-27 should be considered!

    Look in the mirror. You try to claim that the prince of the people who destroyed the city and the sanctuary in 70 AD will be some future Antichrist. How can a future Antichrist be the prince of people who died a long time ago? You have no room to criticize someone else's interpretation when your...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    The "sudden destruction" from which unbelievers "will not escape" on the day of the Lord will be caused by fire coming down on the earth.

    Using emojis is not against the rules. If you don't want me to laugh at your posts, then stop talking about all that churchianity nonsense and stop saying ridiculous things such as that Luke 17:28-30 has something to do with destroying those in the graves when it instead clearly has the context...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    The "sudden destruction" from which unbelievers "will not escape" on the day of the Lord will be caused by fire coming down on the earth.

    You really need to ask God for wisdom (James 1:5-7) because you just butcher scripture sometimes. That passage is only talking about physical destruction, not destruction of "those left in the graves". Your own human wisdom (wisdom of man) is leading you astray. Yes, he absolutely did. He did...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    This is the context of how Dan. 9:24-27 should be considered!

    There's a couple problems with seeing Christ's death on the cross as the abomination of desolation that Jesus spoke about in the Olivet Discourse. First, Jerusalem was not surrounded by armies when Jesus died on the cross. Second, no one fled to the mountains when Jesus died on the cross. So, I...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    The "sudden destruction" from which unbelievers "will not escape" on the day of the Lord will be caused by fire coming down on the earth.

    It's very simple from my perspective as an Amillennial believer, also. Yet, we disagree on this. Obviously, Amillennialism, in and of itself, doesn't dictate how one views this particular topic. According to Jesus Himself, all must appear before Him when He comes with His angels. That has not...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    This is the context of how Dan. 9:24-27 should be considered!

    It doesn't imply that. It does not have to refer to an immediate action as of the time He said it. I thought you indicated that you understood that? Apparently not. He was talking about something that He was going to do in the future. He was going to come quickly. That's all He was saying. And...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    The "sudden destruction" from which unbelievers "will not escape" on the day of the Lord will be caused by fire coming down on the earth.

    Isaiah 45:22-24, which Paul references in Romans 14:11 in relation to the judgment seat of Christ, says otherwise. All people, including believers, will bow before Christ on His judgment seat and confess that He is Lord. Do you deny that unbelievers will ever bow before Him and confess that He...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    The Relationship Between Israel and the Church

    I'm in shock. You actually got something right. Yes, Spiritual Israel does include Gentile believers as well. How can you understand this, but be wrong about pretty much everything else? I just don't get it. Keep studying. Maybe you'll come to understand the truth about the other things you're...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    This is the context of how Dan. 9:24-27 should be considered!

    LOL! You think trying to argue that the prince of the people who destroyed the city and the sanctuary in 70 AD is some future Antichrist is convincing? In what way would a future Antichrist be the prince of people who died long ago? LOL! If only you knew how ridiculous your arguments are. But...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    The "sudden destruction" from which unbelievers "will not escape" on the day of the Lord will be caused by fire coming down on the earth.

    Yes, I do, but you clearly don't. No, I am not saying that. I have done that. Any other lies about me that you want to tell? I have not yet appeared before Jesus to give an account of myself and neither have you. Very simple. Don't foolishly put words in my mouth. You will be very surprised...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    The "sudden destruction" from which unbelievers "will not escape" on the day of the Lord will be caused by fire coming down on the earth.

    You are the ignorant one here. No one has yet bowed before the judgment seat of Christ to give an account of themselves. You are ignorantly turning something simple into something complicated because of your tendency to spiritualize everything you read. Jesus Himself made it clear that it will...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    The Relationship Between Israel and the Church

    Paul indicates that being part of spiritual Israel is NOT dependent on being a physical descendant of national Israel, yet you say otherwise. Romans 9:6 6 It is not as though God’s word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. 7 Nor because they are his descendants are...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    This is the context of how Dan. 9:24-27 should be considered!

    Several times I have pointed out to these people who deny that Luke 21:20-24a, Matthew 24:14-22 and Mark 13:14-20 are parallel accounts of the same event that Luke worded things a little differently (such as saying "when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies" instead of "when you see the...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    This is the context of how Dan. 9:24-27 should be considered!

    Doesn't matter. In this case, it clearly does not mean that. There is no sense in which Jesus, at the time He spoke those words, was continually coming quickly. That clearly makes no sense whatsoever. That contradicts the meaning of the word quickly. You can't come quickly over a continuous...