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Usually when someone says something that is false they apologize for it....unless they have to much pride.

Ok....hold on Paul. You are telling me that you did a comprehensive M.Div papers in Church History covering the Early Church. That means your accusation that Constantine brought paganism into the church should be at the tip of your tongue and you should be able to spout off at least 5 examples...

Ok.....Once again....we are in agreement that one has to believe first......That has never been contested by me. You keep wanting to throw out the water part of baptism in the bible. Peter didn't throw the water out! Phillip who taught the Ethiopian Eunuch did not toss the water out. Jesus...

OMG....I thought you were joking when you said Queen James Bible and now I see your serious. I had to google it....There really is one. What is this world coming to....:( As far as your aversion to the Douay Rheims did you know that even though the original translation was based on the Latin...

So you have been taught that they continued it because of tradition! I think they continued it because Jesus instructed them to! If he told them not to do it they would have stopped.

Fascinating.....

I have never heard of the Queen James Bible....;) How are the KJ and Douay Rheims bible the same as the Satanic bible? I have never heard that theory before

And once again you didn't (couldn't) back up what you said because what you said is false. Will you ever apologize?

Perfect. Which book did you read or website did you go to so you could learn about Church history? I would like to read what you read! Whats up with all the digs at The Church and the pope? Can't we just have a conversation about the topic at hand?

I think this is another case of you saying something that isn't true (like when you said all priests have to be celibate, council of Trent says xyz, excommunication means damned to hell) and you, once again, can't back it up. You are the one who made the affirmative statement that Constantine...

And you still didn't quote the Council of Trent where it said that The Church teaches that "those who depend on Christ alone through faith for salvation are to be condemned to hell". Soooooo now you want to tell me what The Church teaches about excommunication? Is that the rabbit hole we are...

I can't find that in Scripture. Can you quote it for me please?

Ummmmm.....Scripture disagrees with you. Scripture says the church is the pillar and foundation of truth and that we are to go to The Church to settle our differnces and if we refuse to listen to The Church we are to be treated as a pagan or tax collector (kicked out of the Church). Sooooo that...

Well, that's YOUR interpretation of Scripture. Or did the Spirit reveal this to you? Since your interpretation is that the church "consists of all those who believe in Him for salvation" who do we go to so we can fulfill Matthew 18:17? How do we track down all of those people?

Thanks JBF, What or who is "the true church"? I don't know what that means! How did the gates of hell prevail against the Catholic Church? What event(s) happened that indicate that?

Lol.....Ok.....thanks. I can see that you have realized that you can't back up what you say so you are talking in circles....I'm getting dizzy so I will end it here.

Ok dodge ball......sooooo Did the Spirit tell you which church is The Church spoken of in Scripture? Or did the Spirit only give you a partial truth??? Patient and curious Mary

Well, you are partially right. You are wrong in that Pope Francis made this ruling. As you previously stated, of which you apparently forgot, it was in the Council of Trent document. Pope Francis wasn't at the Council of Trent. He only reiterated a long held teaching of The Church. One that...

Lol.....dang spell check. You know what I am talking about dodge ball. You used the word Amazonia in your statement sooooo don't play dumb.

Well, that is NOT what the word means....but I get your point. Sooooo you still didn't quote the Council of Trent where it said that The Church teaches that "those who depend on Christ alone through faith for salvation are to be condemned to hell". I look forward to your quote....You have...