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I get the concept. I don’t see a answer: If we are saved once we become part of the church then what else is there to do? Or why do anything else since we are already saved?

The Church is necessary because it is the pillar and foundation of truth and decides who is to be treated as a pagan or tax collector

Scripture speaks of sound doctrine and false teachers. Who has the authority to point out false teachings and be the “only arbiter and final judge” on sound doctrine?

hey Jim, Ok.....so which group of Christian people do we go to to fulfill Matthew 18:17?

If we are saved once we become part of the church then what else is there to do? Or why do anything else since we are already saved?

Not even the “do this in remembrance of me” ritual/rule? If we don’t do it are we disobeying Him? If we disobey Him will we obtain salvation?

Hey Wrangler, Your “salvation does not depend on living out any doctrine” teaching is not in line with scripture. Today's devotional reading guides me: In pointing out these things to the brethren, you will be a good servant of Christ Jesus, constantly nourished on the words of the faith and...

A man taught you that the Church is invisible. How do we fulfill Matthew 18:17 if The Church is invisible?

Burn the Bible. Wow....

Isn’t keeping holy the sabbath a commandment? Is a commandment the same as a tradition??? That analogy makes no sense. Do you have another so I can better understand what you have been taught?

Well, according to you YOU have been “taught by the Spirit of God”. And you are a human being...are you not? So on one hand you say my problem is that I want to get my doctrine from human beings but on the other hand you, a human being, are telling me that you have been taught by the Holy...

That’s a circular defense of your theory which means you are unable to defend your theory. I’m getting dizzy with your circular arguments....

Hmmmm.......since YOU have been taught by the Spirit of God then there is no need for Christians to go to anyone but YOU for the truth. Right?

Hmmmm.....so no one knows the true number but you KNOW that the number I presented is not right.....I thought no one knows? But you know I’m wrong.....You are confusing me.... How do we fulfill Matthew 18:17 if The Church is invisible? What man taught you that The Church is invisible?

Since you KNOW that The Church is not the pillar and foundation of truth then which church is? So your theory is that since some of the men of The Church, or any Protestant church, commit sins that is a clear indication that their doctrine is false? Using your theory that means ALL churches...

Good idea. What traditions are in harmony with Scripture?

Ummmm.....nope. No darkness here. The scripture i gave you shined a bright light on your anti-biblical teaching. Just because Jesus shed his blood for us doesn’t mean that baptismal regeneration written in scripture is cancelled out. They can both be true. I know you want to ignore it and...

Hi Paul C., Well, we agree on something. The Church did need some cleaning up do to the corruption of the men that were running it. Leaders of churches, Protestant and Catholic, sin and have done the things you speak of. Sooooo lets not ignore the sins of your Protestant church leaders. As...

Hi JBF, So lets put your theory to the test. If, as you have been taught by other men, the Spirit will guide those that have the Holy Spirit into all truth then why are there so many ‘truths’ from one passage of Scripture? I get your theory. Your theory is that only those that have the Holy...

Really? Please enlighten me. What is that number? What criteria did you use to come up with that number?