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Very well put. In case you haven’t read through all these posts, there are 3 questions these IDOLATORS keep ignoring: Does it make sense that God has a God? What Scripture verse says why it is important ti believe the trinity. If the eisegesis take of John 1:1 is correct, why isn’t it...

You’d do well to answer questions put to you. A pre-requisite to understanding my answer is to understand that Jesus’ glory varies with time. If one holds to him possessing invariable glory nothing about this makes sense. You cannot look at 17:5 as a stand alone verse but in the context of...

Agreed. He could not be clearer in 20:31. It says NOTHING about the trinity.

I already answered this twice.

‘the word’ = words credited to God, either directly or through an agent, such as Angel, prophet or son. The Greek word ‘logos’ expands beyond word to include logic, thought or plan, meaning it does not have to be spoken or written. No. Your question is beyond what is stated in Scripture. We...

I already answered this question twice. Can’t answer my questions?

Oh, I thought my answer made that clear; God’s plan to give him all authority on Earth and heaven. BTW, I consider chapter 17 to be the REAL, heart felt Lord’s Prayer, rather than the cerebral one we are taught. The angst Jesus has for his fate and the fate of his friends is palpable here. Did...

God is outside time. His creation, including his son, our lord, is in time.

God’s plan is in place before time existed.

An invalid question, implying a premise not in evidence. There is no there there. A twinkle in his father’s eyes - as all son’s are before they are created. Jeremiah 1:5 applies to Jesus as well as us. “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I...

No one. Words are WHAT’s not WHO’s.

Not one verse says Jesus is God. Not one verse says Jesus is the word! And I see you are still dodging the question of the importance of believing your doctrine from the POV of Scripture verses?

I'm not getting around it. You are reading into it and did not answer my question that if your take is correct, why doesn't his purpose statement say so in 20:31? And more fundamentally, 2 is not 3. Nothing in John 1 supports the trinity.

I want to define terms. From here, conflict is more than just a disagreement. It is a situation in which one or both parties perceive a threat (whether or not the threat is real). From m-w.com Argument. a coherent series of reasons, statements, or facts intended to support or establish a point...

Agreed. Because there is no actual trinity verse in Scripture, they must rely on eisegesis; pretend this expression, still in use today to mean people are on the same page, is some kind of mystical reality.

I'm still waiting for trinitarians to take up the challenge in post #146. Where does Scripture say it is important to believe the Trinity?

Not an answer to my question. Colossians 1:16-17 New Living Translation 16 for through him God created everything in the heavenly realms and on earth. He made the things we can see and the things we can’t see— such as thrones, kingdoms, rulers, and authorities in the unseen world...

We are not taking about forms of heavenly beings, Elohim. We are talking about the Supreme Being named YHWH. You don't even know who God is, which Jesus said in John 17:1-3 is the way to eternal life. Very sad.

Eisegesis. Jesus is a man not a word.

Do we have a cat or does the cat have a human? LOL