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  1. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    This is one of my favorite absurd arguments. David, Daniel and Nebuchadnezzar were also worshipped. Does that make them God 6?
  2. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Huh? Without reading trinitarian doctrine into it. Can’t answer questions otherwise, eh?
  3. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Personification is common. Doesn’t make the ‘person’ God sent God.
  4. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Yes because it is not specified who he is talking to. Trinitarians are eager to presume and the reason being there is no verse that states their doctrine.
  5. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Great point! What the Bible doesn’t say is as profound as what it says. It does not say God the son or God the HS. It says there is only one God, the Father. ‘God the Father’ is stated in every epistle. Only an IDOLATOR could completely ignore what Scripture say over and over again and replace...
  6. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Why can’t you answer these questions without reading trinitarian doctrine into it?
  7. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Genesis 1:26 is ambiguous and not a command. Ex 20:3 is not ambiguous and is a command, God is explicitly singular (me) - and this is confirmed 1,000’s of times in Scripture. Why would you ignore 1,000’s of times God is explicitly referred to using singular pronouns in favor of doctrinally...
  8. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Try answering those questions without reading trinitarian doctrine into it. Genesis 1:4 New Living Translation 4 And God saw that the light was good. Then he separated the light from the darkness. God is already defined in v4 as a singular being. So, you have to assume who God is talking to...
  9. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    That would be consistent with the trinity.
  10. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Words have meaning. It would contradict Genesis that identifies God as a single being. To claim otherwise is to read into monotheist text. You are reading into the text who God is talking to.
  11. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Despite @Johann’s claim, this powerfully undermines the doctrine of the trinity. It’s absurd to assert text that claims 2 supports 3.
  12. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    From today’s devotional reading. Roman’s 5:8 (CEV) But God showed how much he loved us by having Christ die for us, even though we were sinful. Emerges the most powerful evidence that Jesus is not God; juxtaposition. It is ubiquitous. God is the subject of the sentence; Christ is the object...
  13. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    This goes back to post #148. If you can be Born Again without believing in the trinity, why is believing the trinity important? Given its complete absence in 66 books, it's so odd that trinitarians make it out to be the central message of the Bible.
  14. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    It is what it is. The 1C says to have no other gods before me (singular); This necessarily includes the trinitarian god. The 2C says to not worship IDOLS. This is exactly what trinitarians do, worship their manmade trinitarian doctrine god. It's an interesting point that the 1C implies the...
  15. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    I've heard many pastors say no one can understand the trinity, let alone explain it. If true, no responsible person has any business advocating as true something they cannot even understand. Don't take it as a mark against your intellect. Nonsense is not understandable. Square circles are...
  16. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    That's not what I said. You cannot play fast and loose, intermixing literal and figurative language. The expression means blessing. Consider Jesus reading Isaiah 61:1-2 61 The Spirit of the LORD God is upon me, because the LORD has anointed me to bring good news to the poor; he has sent...
  17. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Compare and contrast why each side holds their doctrine important. The best answer I get from trinitarians is to not believe it is to not respect Jesus for who he really is. Again, if this were important, it would be in Scripture's 66 books. By contrast, the importance of Jesus NOT being God...
  18. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    No text in Scripture says this. Certainly not in John's prologue.
  19. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    <sigh> Yes, of course I believe in Jesus! The false dilemma of trinitarians is to say if you do not believe in the trinity, then you cannot be a Christ follower. Untrue. Here are the ABC's and 123's. NOTE: In blue is the specific answer to your question. These ABC’s (OT) and 123’s (NT) will...
  20. Wrangler

    The power of Diversity.

    No. But I would have bet my life you'd advocate for this nonsense. TPTB teach falsehoods in the form of mantra's. It was well explained in 1984. Ever read that? Diversity is not a strength but a weakness. Unity is strength. We are not called the Diversified States of America. Consider a...