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EXACTLY! Doctrines are from man. This explains why the trinity is not in Scripture.

Acquired from his baptism. The same as us.

Good. One thing, @Aunty Jane can testify that I don’t have a lot of time to do a lot of reading long posts.

Why do you think God’s Word got it wrong? If the Early Church Fathers got it right to invent the doctrine of the trinity and the trinity is not in God’s Word, the only conclusion is the 66 books of the Bible got it wrong, incomplete at best.

As I wrote in post #148, trinitarians have to ignore the reasons rejecting the trinity is important; first fruits. Language usage: What does first imply? A series of like to follow. If Jesus is not a man - and only a man - he is not the first fruit and his resurrection is not our proof of...

Not necessarily true. If God is telling @Ritajanice to go East and me to go West, we can both be hearing from God even though the messages are opposite. Regarding doctrine; again, my experience lines up perfectly with @Ritajanice in that I get no confirmation of the inherently contradictory...

Sure! Not everyone here may be interested in a deep dive into logic. Please start another thread.

= Not the trinity.

Thank you sister. GHts There is a quote from Galileo who says he does not feel obligated to believe in a God who gave us reason, intellect and expects us to forego its use. The trinity has to violate 4 pillars of understanding at every turn: Definition Logic Language Usage Explicit Scripture...

Who says? Just an invented limitation on God's will.

This is not a syllogism but a demonstration of circular reasoning; Your 1st premise is the conclusion, you are pretending to use logic to "support." And a syllogism does not have 3 premises. It has 2 premises and a deductive conclusion from those premises, e.g.,: P1. God cannot die. (Isaiah...

I noticed there are no trinitarian takers in post #148 for the importance of believing the trinity. They are so adamant that man-is-god, that they cannot tie the importance of this to anything in Scripture. They hyperventilate at their IDOL threatened but it goes nowhere Scripturally. BTW...

Again, going back to the absurdity of equality, the most powerful, demonstrable fact that Jesus is not God and not equal to God is that Jesus died. God did not. Think about it. How can you say these 2 persons are equal when one cannot change or die and one did? God does not have a "human...

The absurdity of the claim that the 3 in 1 are equal is best seen from the POV of the Holy Spirit. Given that God gave Jesus ALL authority in heaven and Earth, that does not leave much authority for the Holy Spirit. LOL The easiest way to destroy the absurdity of the trinity is from the POV of...

Not at all. The trinity is not in the Bible. It's such a simple point, even a trinitarian can understand it. This is pathetic. Isaiah said these words. Does that make him God? You cannot get away from the fact that prophets, like Isaiah and Jesus speak the words of God. It does not make them...

Sad that trinitarians are so devoted to the IDOL, they cannot acknowledge ANY of the many valid points against it, e.g., there is only "God the Father" in Scripture and every epistle identifies this one God and only this one God, not "God the Son" and not "God the HS."

I did not say plural nouns are not part of the sentence. I am challenging you to interpret it without reading trinitarian doctrine into the text. It's easy if you try. Once one is open to speculating, one must be open to other speculations. Why speculation 1 but not 2 and 3? 2. Speaking to other...

So funny how trinitarians reach for this kind of "support," relying on ignorant masses who misunderstood much of what Jesus said. A corollary to this is Jesus did not rebuke them AS IF he has that burden. Why don't you address the points I made in post #148?

I don’t understand what you are saying in terms of Scripture verses but the trinity is not in the Bible.

Unbelievable! Hebrews 1 affirms Jesus is not God for in verse 5 it states change in God will one day be the father and he will one day be his son. Profound. More profound is the man-is-god thesis does not prove a trinity. That trinitarians must resort to such tortured rationalizations to...