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  1. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    I learned this.
  2. Wrangler

    "Christians don't know what they believe." - until they are brainwashed

    This is what education is about. The church does not tell us what to believe, it teaches what it believes and by extension, what the members should believe. Compare it to a model plane club. It teaches how to build a model plane. It seems like you resent the church's education function. Why do...
  3. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Not a guess at all. But that's all you got, guesses. That the word became human does not make the human god for it is the word that is god. I realize the passion for the trinity is the man-is-god thesis. However, your best guess does not reach the trinity. At best it invents 2 Gods, which...
  4. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    There is no such thing as human logic. There is only logic, which is a tool, the art of the non-contradictory identification of truth. "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." — Galileo Galilei
  5. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Not much. Who will give the sign? And do you realize that being given a name does not mean the person is literally that name, right? For instance, Peter is not literally a rock. The expression "God with us" is common in Scripture. Never does it literally mean it is so.
  6. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Thank you. sml I have studied it in depth. The more I studied it, the more absurd trinitarianism is revealed to be. That's the nature of IDOLATRY, isn't it? More recently, I delved into the ubiquitous IDOLATRY in Christendom. (As a child, I thought idolatry was limited to statues. As I...
  7. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    It's not true by extension. Reaching that conclusion can only be made by reading into the text what is not there. The text reads, "the word was god." It does not read that Jesus is the word. The reason this must be read into the text is because there is no support for the trinity in Scripture...
  8. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    It's not an interpretation. The verse you cite does not even mention Jesus. There is only one God, the Father (1 for 8:6), whose spirit is holy. The attribute of holiness is not a different person. The very fact that you admit that Jesus was sent proves he is NOT God. God does the sending; he...
  9. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    @Ritajanice, did you answer these 2 questions?
  10. Wrangler

    Strength and Honor: Triumphing over Feminism

    I call this the dangerous "can." It just means potential. Some go so far as to assert even possible. The patriarchy can harm others but opposing it is submitting to the Nirvana fallacy. No system is beyond the possibility of harming others. Invoking such an absurd standard is the lengths you...
  11. Wrangler

    Strength and Honor: Triumphing over Feminism

    Wow! It goes to show your profound lack of humility. My father used to say that he thought arguments with my mother were over too. He'd say every now and then, he'd realize she'd bring up the same argument from 1968. As the vid explains, this is just a tactic to avoid accountability. Oh, you...
  12. Wrangler

    Strength and Honor: Triumphing over Feminism

    4. Men and women alike recognize feminism is evil.
  13. Wrangler

    Strength and Honor: Triumphing over Feminism

    Yes. It is clear that you have no idea what feminism is for you cannot explain the arbitrary wall between "liberal" which you assert is good, with "radical" which you admit is bad - without explaining why it is bad. I'll give you a hint. If you accept the premise, you accept the natural...
  14. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    I hoped that would be your answer.
  15. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    One basic problem I’ve found in having this discussion is trinitarians take their doctrine as true by default and have no rejection criteria. What set of words would qualify as rejecting the claim that the trinity is true? For instance, I already provided the acceptance criteria for me. I’ve...
  16. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Wow Red, rarely have I come across a trinitarian with this perspective. What do you make of trinitarians who deny the evolution of the doctrine?
  17. Wrangler

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Only when you try to force it into false Trinity doctrine is Scripture maddeningly equivocal. Do you find the Gospel equivocal, that Jesus is the son of God, the long awaited Messiah, who died for our sins and was resurrected by his God? Keep in mind that the most explicit text must supercede...
  18. Wrangler

    Oklahoma orders first shipment of Bibles for use in public school classrooms

    The converse is true MAGA is about true Christianity for American citizens.
  19. Wrangler

    The Bible is not “Gods Word.” It's simply "The Bible."

    Best not to try to figure people out. We are brimming with pride and prejudices, emotions and irrationalities. LOL The Miracle is how frequently we transcend our base nature to effectively deal with this fallen world. When people say inflammatory things, I recognize it reveals their worldview...