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Interesting also that in Hebrews 9.14 it speaks of the blood of Christ Who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without spot to God purging the conscience. In the end, the Lord knows the conscience.

@Ronald Nolette Well, I take your point, yes. Really it's about context. Context, yes :) Legalism, no :rolleyes:

Mr. Putin and Mr. Zelensky?

@Pearl Nothing to do with real nudity, but you are blessed in the UK to be away from some of the more extreme culture of some strict Fundamentalist churches in North America. Variously some ppl will claim: *No pants on women *No wine with meals *Going to the hairdresser risks one's inclusion...

I read about a man from Japan who worked at the London stock exchange but didn't like it. He said it was because he didn't have enough stress. So he went to work at the Tokyo stock exchange and there - finally - obtained the stress he needed. (The moral: it's a cultural thing also; sometimes...

@Pearl Some ppl do seem to take to extremes and want to police bikinis, etc. (even when some one piece swimwear is more minimal than some two piece suits), skinny jeans (it would be a hard job to ban them in a lot of churches), etc...

(Sorry the poll expired, ppl...)

Well, the last thing you just mentioned is apples and oranges as far as my wife and her jeans are concerned, anyway. You're right; sometimes there is a massively subjective element that gets infused into discussions sometimes....

Well, I don't think it would be profitable for some guy in church to start rating my wife's pairs of jeans as to 1) whether they are skinny or not; 2) whether she should wear them in some places but not others; 3) whether she should take some or all of them to the Salvation Army.... (I was just...

Unusual thread...

Good poster there, @Cassandra

Well, sometimes all the young women in church probably are wearing ubiquitous skinny jeans, but I really wouldn't classify them as nudity: a big leap of logic, I reckon, imho....

@Cassandra FYI.....thread I started.....(sorry the poll already expired...)

@Cassandra The basic premise of this thread seems unusual....

I don't see the notional link between vaccinations and 1) Ukraine; 2) Mr. Putin; or whomever else...

Good for you, @JohnPaul ...

@Cassandra My wife doesn't feel dressed unless she puts on her face. Good to concentrate on the inward and spiritual, of course.

@Cassandra Sounds about right. I do think that for a woman, gifts of flowers, earrings and chocolates can always been special...

@Cassandra So it really worked for you! congrats! I guess the trick is that it gives you your nicotine but potentially in decreasing doses controlled by you, right?

@Titus FYI.....thread I started.... (Any wisdom...?)