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I'm using the Sun as a metaphor and was thinking more of a lateral approach like 'God is a consuming fire' idea. It appears angels aren't consumed by him and when Jesus appears, his people aren't consumed by him while the unrighteous panic. The Sun for us is a source of light and warmth...

A sun and a shield! hmmmm, I wonder whether that puts 'everlasting fire' into a particular perspective?

You're right Jay. I had miles and kilometres confused. Ahhh, 24, 901.461 Miles. I'll need to step up my pace. The thing is, I've discovered I've needed to do that all my life :)

When I head east at a leisurely pace of 4 kms an hour I'm doing 24,0004 kms an hour and I'm not even breaking a sweat.

Do you have a calling? I've been calling most of my life. S'pose that means I qualify!

This is how I understand it broadly. Computers which are loaded with algorithms. When there is input of some sort like voice (questions that are asked it) it responds like a human. It appears as if it has the ability to think. Here is the dictionary's definition, algorithm | ˈalɡərɪð(ə)m |...

The Hebrews considered God responsible for everything both good and bad. It reflects in how they wrote and needs factoring in. It changes what one hears. Job thought it was God giving him a hard time, so did his friends. He didn't know what we know. We are told it was Satan who was responsible.

He was one of us, the same nature otherwise temptations would not have been temptations. Hebrews 4:15

I don't not believe God required Jesus to be killed. Prediction does not mean something is required nor does it mean causation.

by showing that when we do our darnedest to torment, to torture, even kill him, he doesn't give up on us

There are lots of questions to be asked F2F but you can be assured I wouldn't ask you :)

As I said, I don't expect anything from you and I reject your attitude that says 'I blindly expect you to except this like I'm a dumb ass?'

Jesus is the foundation. 1 Corinthians 3:11

Believe as you wish F2F ....I'm not into jumping through anyones hoops to entertain them.

@face2face....further Revelation 12:9 20:2 Why be condescending in your post F2F.....just consider me a dumb ass and be content.....then you wont need to keep up the unsolicited advice :)

@face2face....further Revelation 12:9 20:2

John 8.44

The whole exercise of God's condescension to be human, to sojourn amongst us and to be be rejected by his own creatures speaks of God's tenderness, longsuffering and the value of his creatures to him. Our treatment of him speaks of our hate of righteousness. The parable of the unjust tenants...

do we take the cameras into the toilets next?