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you can be certain there will be many to whom the Lord of the Manor say's 'I never knew you'

.....and if Jesus turned up in downtown wherever, who do you think will be foremost in getting rid of him? The revered teachers, priests, lawyers, scribes, leaders, those with the degrees and self advertised status.....yup, those who figured they had the right angle in Jesus time......the...

Bingo!

and who determines that?

I suppose Judas thought he was doing the right thing.....until he didn't......and you know the outcome of that!

They no doubt found the need to lampoon Jesus in his day also. The need to lampoon, to misrepresent and to downright lie about another reflects more on the actor than the acted on. God is long suffering as the jeers and mocking of the leaders and the crowd go up.

you clearly don't hear yourself!

In my estimation your error is believing that everything the Prophets understood about God was accurate/ correct. Jesus made it clear that not everything they had heard said and I would add, assumed, was correct. If you want a definitive reference point to determine right from wrong, truth...

I don't suppose you consider Jesus an authority on the matter either because you don't take into consideration that he clarified that issue.

Why are you so patronising F2F?

they were in error.

Satan has hidden himself. Right from the outset he disguised himself as other than who he is, either a Serpent or God or those who have died claiming communication with the living. He is evidenced in the perpetual false accusations as he is in the evil perpetrated globally. Jesus said of those...

It is correct that Satan appears only a few time in the OT. The Hebrews never acknowledged him as a rival to God rather they saw him as we would a prosector. They attributed all good and bad to God. Jesus changed that. He positively identified him as the culprit who is responsible for evil ie...

You thought I was a real thinker as well F2F but when we think in parameters you are unfamiliar with you draw the conclusion that we don't think. Brakelite has put out the obvious re Satan in his post here and it flummoxes you. From the questions you've asked me and the statements you've made...

Oh dear, F2F.....you assume the role of teacher as if you know and others don't, in this case me. You speak condescendingly and are oblivious to it. Why would I even engage when this attitude permeates your approach and displayed with such confidence?

Satan has been around long enough to know what the game being played is. Most humans don't. They live in their worlds of imagination, presumption, assumption, short sightedness, misunderstanding, bias, subjectivity, lack of education; the list goes on......for how long?...a few decades? Satan...

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Man had not previously existed in any form before God created him from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life .....and man became a living soul. He didn't get a soul, he became one. The breath of life God gave is the energy which activates the formed dust. Its...

Genesis 3:19 By the sweat of your face you shall eat bread, till you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken; for you are dust, and to dust you shall return.”

Turning the question with the associated excuses/ reasons is nothing but a decoy. Go and get oil in your lamp before the master returns and finds you knocking on his door with the answer of 'I don't know you"