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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    King Jesus will return at the end of this temporal age and then deliver His kingdom to God the Father

    God knowing things beforehand is not the same as God determining what will happen beforehand. Because Adam and Eve chose to sin against God and everyone has been born with a natural tendency to sin (sinful nature) since then. People need to choose whether to give in to that natural tendency or...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    King Jesus will return at the end of this temporal age and then deliver His kingdom to God the Father

    Ugh. I didn't say that I don't believe the mark of the beast is future. I'm saying I don't believe it is only related to the future, as you probably believe. Notice I said "probably". Is that what you believe? No, they are not all directly related. Some promises are already realized. For...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    King Jesus will return at the end of this temporal age and then deliver His kingdom to God the Father

    That's not what that verse means. You are putting the responsibility and blame for all murders, rapes, and every other sin on God instead of on man where it belongs.
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    My personal eclectic view

    Amen. It couldn't be more clear, yet dispensationalists still can't see it. Sad.
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Revelation 20:1-15 & the 1,000 years (aka Millennium) Bible Study

    LOL. I don't just randomly pick and choose. I interpret the scriptures according to their context. Your interpretation of 2 Peter 3:10-12 is a complete joke. The elements represent "rebellious peoples"? LOL. What is that based on? Look at 2 Peter 3:6-7. You would have us believe that he compared...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    King Jesus will return at the end of this temporal age and then deliver His kingdom to God the Father

    If God has to control everything in order to be sovereign, then He has never been sovereign. The correct answer to my question is no. He does not have to control everything to be sovereign. That is the case for Jesus as well. God allowing things to happen is not a case of Him controlling what...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    When Might Satan With His Angels Come to This Earth For the Tribulation?

    It says he accused people before God and God is located in the third heaven. Very simple. You are not even able to understand the simplest things sometimes. How can you hope to understand any of the deeper things when that is the case? You are trying to twist the text to make it say what you...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    King Jesus will return at the end of this temporal age and then deliver His kingdom to God the Father

    So what? What is your point? All of those names refer to the same Spirit of God.
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    King Jesus will return at the end of this temporal age and then deliver His kingdom to God the Father

    The Holy Spirit and the Spirit of Christ are the same Spirit, so it doesn't matter if the Holy Spirit was referred to as "The Spirit of Christ" in the Old Testament or not. Any reference to the Holy Spirit is a reference to the Spirit of Christ because those are two different ways of referring...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    King Jesus will return at the end of this temporal age and then deliver His kingdom to God the Father

    Since the world began. 1 Corinthians 10:1 Moreover, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware that all our fathers were under the cloud, all passed through the sea, 2 all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, 3 all ate the same spiritual food, 4 and all drank the same...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    King Jesus will return at the end of this temporal age and then deliver His kingdom to God the Father

    Which prophecy are you referring to exactly? He certainly has brought peace to those who belong to Him. Acts 10:36 You know the message God sent to the people of Israel, announcing the good news of peace through Jesus Christ, who is Lord of all. Romans 5:1 Therefore, since we have been...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    King Jesus will return at the end of this temporal age and then deliver His kingdom to God the Father

    That's not really a valid question to ask me since I likely don't have the same understanding of the beast and the mark of the beast as you do. I believe the mark of the beast has been around a long time and you probably only see it as a future thing. Can you explain why you are asking me this...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    Exactly. His unwillingness to answer makes it seem like he has something to hide for some reason. Agree. I started a thread about this topic and would appreciate if you shared your perspective there. Here is the link: This is what Jesus meant when He said "My kingdom is not of this world" (John...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    Simple and straightforward = "They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world." (John 17:16). Does your understanding of what He meant when He said His kingdom is not of this world similar to your understanding of what He meant when He said, in relation to His disciples, "They are not...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    Stupid question. Don't waste my time with stupid questions. There's nothing difficult for me about John 18:36 at all. If this is easy for you to understand His words, then just tell me your understanding of them. Should be very easy for you to do. Why would you refuse to do so? Do you have...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    When Jesus returns at the last trumpet, death will be swallowed up in victory and there will then be no more death, which will fulfill Isaiah 25:8.

    Great job of not addressing what I said at all. Again, Peter said that we (believers) look for new heavens and a new earth to dwell in (2 Peter 3:13) and that is where Old Testament saints will be, also, because, as Hebrews 11:39-40 indicates, they will not inherit God's promises apart from NT...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    When Jesus returns at the last trumpet, death will be swallowed up in victory and there will then be no more death, which will fulfill Isaiah 25:8.

    Do you think I believe otherwise? I agree with this. What you said here is what I've been trying to tell Marilyn C, but she doesn't get it. She tries to divide God's people into different groups, but all of God's people from all-time are all one in Christ. All part of one body together.
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    When Jesus returns at the last trumpet, death will be swallowed up in victory and there will then be no more death, which will fulfill Isaiah 25:8.

    So what? That is my intention. The purpose of this thread is to show that Christ's return at the last trumpet will usher in the new heavens and new earth rather than the new heavens and new earth being ushered in 1,000+ years later, as Premils believe. I'm not intending to discuss anything...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    Revelation 20:1-15 & the 1,000 years (aka Millennium) Bible Study

    He insists on interpreting the text of highly symbolic books literally and the text from a very literal book like 2nd Peter symbolically. Premills lack the discernment to be able to differentiate between literal and symbolic text and that is why they are so confused and cause contradictions in...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    Revelation 20:1-15 & the 1,000 years (aka Millennium) Bible Study

    Yes, of course. One account is contained in the most highly symbolic book in the entire Bible and the other is not. Peter compared the future event of fire dissolving the heavens and the elements and burning up the earth directly to the flood in Noah's day. He was not comparing a literal event...