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The timing of the fulfillment of the verse that this thread is about, which is 2 Thessalonians 1:10, will be on the same day when "the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the...

I have not studied Deuteronomy 32 in enough depth to give a commentary on it, but I said that I don't deny that the heavens and earth can be referred to symbolically, which is obviously the case in Deuteronomy 32:1. But, a vast majority of verses which refers to the heavens and/or the earth...

What clear scripture written for children to understand do you think she is rejecting? John 5:28-29 is a clear scripture which says that all of the dead will be resurrected at generally the same time/hour. Why do you reject that clear scripture? Matthew 25:31-46 is a clear scripture...

Do you believe that the time when the seventh trumpet sounds is "the time of the dead, that they should be judged" as Revelation 11:15-18 indicates? If so, when does Revelation 20:11-15 indicate that the dead will be judged, before or after the thousand years?

You say a lot of things that amils agree with, yet you are still somehow a premil. I'll probably never understand that, but nevermind that for now. I just wanted to ask a question for clarification. Do you believe that the events described in Revelation 20:1-9 chronologically follow the events...

It was a question, not a comment. Learn the difference so that you stop looking foolish. Since you acknowledge the existence of literal heavens and a literal earth, why can't Matthew 24:35-39, 2nd Peter 3:10-13 and Revelation 20:11 refer to the literal heavens and literal earth? I'm sure you...

Nonsense. You are being very foolish here. Paul made it very clear that human beings have a body, a soul and a spirit. John saw the souls of bodily dead people (Rev 6:9-11, Rev 20:4). Nowhere does scripture teach that our souls can die. Instead of addressing this, you foolishly deny what 1...

You don't have enough experience then. It seems that almost nothing you say is true. I don't deny that the words heaven and earth can be used symbolically. I'm denying that they are used that way in passages like Matthew 24:35-39, 2 Peter 3:10-12 and Revelation 20:11. Try to pay attention to...

I'm referring to this verse... 2 Thessalonians 1:10 when He comes, in that Day, to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who believe, because our testimony among you was believed. It should be obvious that the day when Jesus comes "to be glorified in His saints and to be...

Abraham is in the body of Christ along with all believers from all-time. You are sadly mistaken. Your attempts to divide what Jesus brought together as one are sickening to me. Do you not understand that Old Testament saints are saved by the blood of Christ just as we are? There is no other name...

LOL. I don't limit myself to a strictly literal reading of the Word. Stop being foolish. I discern when the text within the Word is literal and when it is symbolic. Obviously, there is both literal and symbolic (and apocalyptic, poetic, hyperbolic, etc.) text in scripture. LOL. You are a...

I don't recall ever correcting you before on your mistaken understanding of John 14:1-3. Why aren't you willing to address what I said? He said He is coming again. If that isn't a reference to His second coming, I don't know what is, yet you deny the verse is referring to His second coming. You...

Agree. There is no scripture that describes Jesus doing any reaping Himself. He has His angels do the actual reaping. Daniel 7:13 “I was watching in the night visions, And behold, One like the Son of Man, Coming with the clouds of heaven! He came to the Ancient of Days, And they brought Him...

Do you think He will literally be holding a sickle that He will use to reap His people? Of course He won't. That's ridiculous. You have no understanding of the symbolism in Revelation. He won't be holding a sickle just as He won't be riding a white horse when He comes with a sword coming out of...

Good point. Agree.

Right. I was thinking of that passage, also, but decided not to reference it since I thought I had already made my point. 2 Thessalonians 1:7 and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, 8 in flaming fire taking vengeance on...

Well, you think wrong. How can you say this when Paul quotes the fulfillment of Isaiah 25:8 in relation to the time when the bodies of everyone in the church are changed to put on bodily immortality (1 Corinthians 15:54)? What does this even mean? Do you not understand that there are things in...

That is something you have made up in your imagination. Jesus taught about 2 ages, not 3, so I'm going to stick to what Jesus taught. He taught that there is this temporal age during which people get married and die and then the eternal age to come during which people will no longer get married...

This is complete nonsense. John 14:2 “Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me. 2 In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and...

The context of all three verses is the day Christ returns. The wrath that we are not appointed to and will be delivered from is described in verses written shortly after 1 Thess 4:17 and shortly before 1 Thess 5:9. Here is the context of the wrath that we are not appointed to and when it will...