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@Abigail Truth unites, but it divides as well...depending on the heart of the person.

PS: I'm not an annihilationist...

@Abigail Such a searching Psalm, 139....

Hi @Naomi25 I think also if we remember that the church is a heavenly people (Ephesians 1) whereas Israel has earthly blessings (some in the OT have been justified by faith also), it can give a clearer picture of how Jews, Gentiles and the church of God (1 Corinthians 10.32) relate to...

Links in also with 'the working of His might power' mentioned by Paul in chapter 1 of Ephesians...

@MatthewG 1 Corinthians 15.57 says: "But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ." And it follows that we can therefore be 'always abounding in the work of the Lord' (v.58), which is 'not in vain in the Lord').

By definition, the rapture relates to the church rather than to tribulation saints. The church is not the object of God's wrath on earth.

In Luke 1.47, Mary said: "My soul doth magnify the Lord, and my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour". Mary needed a Saviour also...

Actually I don't see the rapture in Matthew 24; it seems that Matthew 24 would deal more with tribulation saints.

Some of those passages don't seem to relate to the church at all. By definition, it's the church that is taken at the rapture; 1 Corinthians 11.26, etc.

@PinSeeker FYI..... can't remember if I copied you on this thread; sorry the poll expired already...

There is a distinction between the scope of the Gospel message going out 'to every creature' (Mark 16.15) and the need for the Spirit to work effectually to those who believe; otherwise they will remain 'dead in trespasses and sins' (Ephesians 2).

May the Lord uphold her, @Nancy; Hebrews 7.25...

Seems like the great tribulation in Matthew 24 and the tribulation principle in John 16 are distinct...

@devin553344 Well, these days at 18 or thereabouts the tattoo parlor appt. is what they do, it seems. Kind of a coming of age thing. Sometimes it's just one and then that's it. So you think one only is better?

We eat salmon regularly also...

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