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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    How important is it, of what I just demonstrated? Romans 8:8-9. Very important!
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    From God's perspective, I see our salvation as a process. A simple analogy of a Caterpillar being "born again" into "a NEW creature", works marvously well for helping our understanding. 1. "The natural man", all are physically born dead to God- Caterpillar stage. 2. "Born again by His Holy...
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    The discerning factor of who the sheep and the goats are know by Christ in each generation. See Romans 8:9. For every person who professes Christ, but never did Receive the Baptism of the Holy Spirit by Christ, is not born again of God's Holy Spirit, and therefore should they physically die in...
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Matthew 10:28
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Unfortunately, you did not quote all the verses pertaining to that topic, nor are you using the KJV, of which doesn't manipulate the reader's understanding, through the use of slanting nuances and word insertions, in order to bend people towards a particular denominational view. So lets look at...
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    ^ And if you recall both death and hell (the grave) will end up IN the lake of fire. Rev. 20[14] And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. [15] And whosoever was not found written in the book of life [who is Jesus] was cast into the lake of fire.
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Mat. 10[28] And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in *hell. *hell is the grave.
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    No one here is doing what you claim! I clearly did say: "If you are NOW "a partaker of the divine nature", then you are a participant in Christ's Resurrection, and have been given the Gift of eternal life, through His Holy Spirit, which is the token of His promise that we shall be bodily...
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    For a moment, let's consider what it might be like, as how we think about the GWTJ, and how it might commence over resurrected "flesh and blood" only, standing before God, an all consuming fire: "Ahem...., okay... next? Oh, its you Johnny B Goode! Hmmm, lets see now, its written here in the...
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    "What is the second death?" 2 Thes. 1[7] And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, [8] In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: [9] Who shall be...
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    All of your "thinking" in the above, is derived through your "natural man/mind", and NOT what the Spirit is meaning in what is said/written. Ananlytical and logical thinking by our natural man, is NOT the way of Christ's understanding.
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Correct! ONly Jesus was/is the first resurrection unto NEW Life? Now, if you have been born again of His Holy Spirit, what did God give to you? Ans. His Holy Spirit, which is a portion of His "divine nature", making you therefore a "partaker of the divine nature" of His Being. 2 Peter 1:4...
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    1 John 4:[18] There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love. A surmised pending judgment by Christ against a born again Christian, after physical death IS "TORMENT". So, if there is fear in your heart of...
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    If you are NOW "a partaker of the divine nature", then you are a participant in Christ's Resurrection, and been given the Gift of eternal life, through His Spirit, which is the token of His promise that we shall be bodily changed/resurrected into His likeness of Immortality.
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Gen 9 [27] And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: > Your understanding of God's "judgment" is contrary to NT scripture. The judgment that was "appointed" to Adam and all descendants, was to DIE ONCE, but after this, God's Judgment unto Eternal Life, was to...
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    God's judgment through Adam, and all who are in him, is death (condemned already). God's judgment through Christ, and all who are in Him by faith, is Life (not condemned).
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    You were judged as "not condemned" because of your faith in Jesus! KJV- John 3:18. When you came to Jesus for the forgiveness of sin and to receive the gift of the Holy Spirit, THAT IS when you "appeared before the judgment seat of Christ".
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    You only spoke on the first part of what the world of the unsaved hope for in this life. You neglected to comment on the latter part: "then sudden destruction, and they shall not escape." So when the Lord returns in flaming fire, all the saints shall be changed/resurrected from off this then...
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    If you have to ask that question, then you don't hear or know what John 3:18 is saying.
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Thanks for sharing your understanding. However, as lengthy as it is, I will not be commenting or contesting anything of what your indoctrinated teaching has assembled. Clearly, you are convinced in what you believe, and therefore have no desire to hear "the simplicity that is in Christ". 2...