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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Yes, you pegged it correct!! And if truly understand what John 5:39 means, we shall understand that the wisdom that you posted for description, is Jesus Himself, Pre-incarnate!:)
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    That one "might know" requires that one humble themselves in the Lord, by saying: "I don't know, please "guide" me by YOUR understanding, and not MY OWN." John 16:13. His knowledge brings JOY, not sorrow! "Knowing the facts/truth about Creation , will deliver one to a correct understanding of...
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    I believe that most here are not out to offend anyone, but rather are serious in learning, and therefore are not wasting their time over alot of emotional nuances. No one here is attacking you, but rather enjoining you, but along the lines of the OP: "Death is swallowed up in victory! When?"...
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Thanks for your insightful reply! 1. I agree- 70 weeks (of years) in Daniel 9:24, of time determined upon "thy people", in which the Lord would accomplish His work. 2. I agree- the Lord "confirming His covenenant" with the disciples. Daniel 9:27 3. My decision pending.
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    1 Cor. 2[12] Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. [13] Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual...
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    If you would stay with the OP core question of this thread, you also could contribute, and understand the truth/facts of Creation, better than you do.
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    1. Not really. Aren't we following the thoughts of OP about the title of this thread? 2. Everyone's doctrinal stand, from the beginning of understanding Creation, whether right, wrong or indifferent, taints every other topical doctrine down line, right into the book of Revelation.
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Taken wrote: "A soul OUT of the Body IS Still Living, and the Body IS Dead." > Okay, it appears that you have done some serious research, according to Moses' knowledge and understanding at that time. Now, how does Genesis 6:17 Genesis 7:15, 22 apply to Adam? Shall we say that animals who die...
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Hi Chris, Thank you for your sincere and honest reply. I must say that the Lord has given you great understanding through His Spirit. For without Him within us, we are just reading the words of the Bible, gaining only a historical knowledge, heaped upon by the preconcieved doctrines of men...
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    BTW, be sure to read Genesis quotes that I referenced in the KJV
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Did you know that alot of Christian denominations do not hold to that view, that man became a living soul, but rather hold to the view that God gave man an eternal soul. Have you made the distinction of what "the breath of life" really is, when you read Genesis 6:17 and Genesis 7:15, 22 ?
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    So, you agree with answer #2, of my line item #2, thus agreeing that "man became a living soul" .
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    That is OK and most glorious for the saved, both alive and dead, but what about the unsaved, both alive and dead? Will they get a second chance, AFTER Christ resurrects/raptures His church? Why or why not?
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Since no one here understands their own doctrinal stance, of WHY/HOW they believe in hell, in the way that they do, I have laid it out before you. I repeat: If we who are saved, are going to be living IN the New heaven and New earth, death must be altogether, in all totality, eradicated. One...
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    No one that I know of, who is a born again Christian, has a non-answer on this topic, unless of course they want to avoid it altogether. But if you then choose to avoid it, by which of the two items, that I listed below, do you understand what death is, and for how long it shall exist? "Death"...
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    All of what i presented, in my post is indeed connected to the title of this thread. We have been discussing HOW death is swallowed up in victory, and when! My two items 1&2 each dictate HOW one understands death. You have lost the plot of what I am talking about. You refuse to discuss it, in...
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Ok then! Its not necessary for you to participate in the discussion, unless you have another option that I may have over looked.
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    When you understand how diametrically opposed items 1 and 2 are, you will then begin to see ALL the biblical topics they each effect. Again, which line item of belief are you? #1 or #2?
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Are yoy trying to split a hair with an axe? Christianity is a huge umbrella. It covers every denomination that believes in Jesus as the only Savior. Splitting hairs is not necessary. So, lets not!
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Hi Chris, Yes, I agree, it is a difficult process to comprehend, mainly because our finite minds do not know what to expect in our literal death of the flesh of our bodies. However, the Lord said this in John 11[26] And whosoever liveth AND believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this...