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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    No! The Lord HAS NOT come yet in flaming fire. I was referencing the scripture itself, implying for those who are found to be unsaved AT His coming, being in that moment that He will have "came", being seen by all in the heaven of the earth's atmosphere
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    But what happened to all the unsaved, both dead and alive, when the Lord came from Heaven in flaming fire, to be Glorified in His saints?
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Yes, God does have a covenant with His people of Israel, but its only by the New Covenant through Jesus, NOW! So, if the majority of Jews do not come to Jesus, that's really too bad, because they each in each generation, are just as LOST (as having never been born) as any Gentile slob! John...
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    I understand the "catching up" perfectly fine! [7] And "to you who are troubled rest with us," when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, [8] In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: [10]...
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Those are alot words to describe what God created, who breathe the breath of Life. According to Moses' limited knowledge and understanding, what else would he call it, except the breath of life? Gen. 2[7] And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the...
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    It is written to show that the people in Christ's day had identical questions. John 6[28] Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? [29] Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent. Other than that...
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    The only division that i have aproblem with, is that you have set up the Jews for salvation AFTER Jesus returns in flaming fire (your rapture) whereby the church is gloriously resurrected/transformed, and the wicked, both alive and dead, are destroyed in that day. It is a simultaneous event of...
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Animals have a soul? Or is it more like they were created with the capacity to breathe the breath of life, and therefore became a living soul also? I think that is more likely the case.
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    "Charity" is the giving of that which yours to others. John 3:16 is a good example of that reality.
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    I repeat: The word "soul", in the Hebrew is "nephesh", which means "animal soul". So here it is, in everyone's face: KJV- Gen. 2[7] And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul [nephesh]- animal soul.
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Well of course it would be silly! We ALL KNOW that we need Oxygenated air to breathe in order TO LIVE. It IS "the breath of life", for us all! Yes! Its that simple!! No "religious spin" whatsoever!
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Marks wrote: "Doesn't this ask a question that we have to answer outside of Scripture? It seems a reasonable conclusion, breath, blood, oxygen, OK, just the same, in saying, the life is in the blood, there's no specific that says it's talking about oxygen. Though I wouldn't have a problem with...
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Why must we "religiously think" EVERYTHING? Who told you to do that? Did Moses know what Oxygen ? NO!! So, if a doctor says that you need Oxygen, and you say "No, I have "the breath of life" , he is going to tell you that you don't have enough!! Will you receive it, or lay there and die while...
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    You are absoluetly correct!
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Hi Marks, yes, I have studied the issue of what "the breath of life" is in both man and animals. My conclusion is scriptural, and the answer I provide, does not make the "religious thinker" happy at all. From the stand point of the Medical Field, of which virtually all of us are in some degree...
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    So now my question : In the time frame of Moses, the author of Genesis, what would he know in his day of what exactly the "breath of life" was? While thinking on that, do try to take the "religiosity" of all "religious thinking", by people in the day of Jesus, the "early church fathers", as...
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Actually, there is no guessing about it. We all stand in only one of two camps of understanding, about what a "soul" is. We all understand it from the perspective of "God breathed", and from there, only one question can be asked: WHAT constitutes the "breath of Life", that God breathed into the...
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    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Okay, but can you say the same about all animals that also have "the breath of life"? KJV- Genesis 6:17 Genesis 7:15, 22