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On your own belief that you are saved by believing in the way you do. God is circumvented in favour of your own judgment on the matter. Ps. 19:13 Keep back your servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me! Then I shall be blameless, and innocent of great transgression.

Gal. 2:17 But if seeking to be justified in Christ, we ourselves also have been found sinners, is Christ then a minister of sin? Never may it be! For if I build again these things that I had torn down, I prove myself a transgressor. IN Christ there are no sinners or ungodly. Those who claim to...

If you would just stop with all the self-justification you'd be alright. The Pharisees were condemned harshly by Jesus just for claiming to see...to understand. Many Christians do the same and worse. These are asking for the same judgment as they. Their righteousness does not exceed that of...

For all who think that being ungodly brings automatic justification. Does it say that God justifies ALL the ungodly. Does anyone here see how preposterous it is to try justifying yourself before God??? It amazes me. Should we sin more to get more grace? Are we who follow Christ not dead to...

I know...that you are justified for being ungodly. But even that is God's decision. No matter how much you choose to be ungodly...that is no grounds to justify yourself. Otherwise you would be just both ungodly AND self-righteous. Adding sin to sin.

To the Inquisitor... I am speaking of things that you don't understand. Your favourite verse does not say what you think it does. naturally you are looking to prop up the flesh by twisting the meaning of the verse in question. Is that wise? And you ignore the ones I give you...because you can't...

All these presumptions and false conclusions. Very weak. You are declaring yourself righteous. Better to make your calling and election sure and actually know Him. Let God declare your righteousness...personally. Lord preserve us from presumptuous sins.

Indeed. But you are changing the idea to God not having any say as to what is forgivable or not. The flesh wants to wrest the control away from God to be manipulated by men. The verse implies the decision is the Lord's. God judges. If a person assumes he is already forgiven...without...

It's hard to discuss things with people that hide from the truth and stick to their pride. How many here want to be seen as being justified as ungodly?...since God justifies the ungodly. So the flesh grasps at this chance for justification. The flesh wants most of all to be justified. But then...

The purveyors of this false gospel of grace have transformed the gospel into a low calling of Christ. Anyone with a religious opinion about Jesus is guaranteed of eternal forgiveness for a life of never-ending sin. That's really something to go after...a real narrow way....not. o_O

When a person doesn't understand the power of Christ...they always run to the flesh as an excuse to disbelieve...as you are doing. All have sinned. But not all continue to sin. Those of us who are truly born again have access to the Lord's grace so as to walk as He walked. But if you only...

Mature or complete in what? In holiness! Holy as God is holy. So then you don't have the correct scale of perfection. It is far beyond what humans can do in their own strength. We are to walk as Jesus walked. How? By abiding in Christ.

There is only eternal life and security when we walk in Christ without sin. The flesh has no guarantees attached. The soul that sins still dies. The false gospel of grace can't stand up to the law...it breaks the law. The true gospel of grace is a power that fulfills the law. Rom. 8:4 So...

I think this part needs to be in the thread about false grace. See, this always happens. People take things too far. The bible says this... Rom. 3:25 whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God’s righteousness, because in his divine...

The kingdom of God is NOW in the Spirit. We are to walk in the Spirit...now. You aren't getting that. We walk in the realm of God's kingdom when we walk in the Spirit. It is being in two places at once. Seeing through the kingdom into this world. Or else seeing through this world into the...

You are showing over and over again that you are not getting what spiritual life is. The ego is in your complete confidence that you understand what the bible is actually saying. What I'm saying...and the bible is saying...is that in Christ is no sin. ...do you get that? So then if we join...

So now you agree with there being a spiritual kingdom? It isn't just "spiritualizing" as you stated before? But they who want to partake of the kingdom in the next age need to enter into Christ and walk in His kingdom life in this age. You can't just keep pushing everything into the future. In...

Quote "Every enmity and hostility is gone, and the salesmen of false grace has.. succeeded in reconciling the irreconcilable paths of righteousness and iniquity for you. You're infallible in grace, and forever settled/seated in a Christ who no longer loves righteousness and hates iniquity...

Well said. We don't agree too often...but we intersect here. :) See if you can follow the biblical step forward. Now for the righteousness of God to be in what WE do we must also lay down our lives for His life to come forth from us. Like rivers of living waters. So then we also lay down our...

It's by faith, by the Spirit. This is what the New Testament is about....but you are only seeing physical things. You must be born again by the Spirit to see and understand these things.