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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    Agree. The other Israel is national Israel, right? Elect national Israelites are part of both Israels, so I don't think we should make the blanket statement that the other Israel is lost and unbelieving. That comes across as if we're saying that all who descend from national Israel are lost. In...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Unlike Amillennialism, Premillennialism is based on assumptions and speculation rather than on any clear, straightforward scriptures

    Everyone struggles with understanding parts of those books or else we wouldn't have so many different interpretations of them. Any honest person will admit that a good portion of those books are difficult to interpret because of the amount of symbolism in the books.
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Unlike Amillennialism, Premillennialism is based on assumptions and speculation rather than on any clear, straightforward scriptures

    Sorry, but I have no idea of what you're trying to say here. Please be more specific so that I don't have to guess as to what you are intending to say.
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    26 major reasons to reject the Premillennial doctrine

    How about giving a clear interpretation of these passages that I had referenced. How exactly do you interpret these passages? 1 Thessalonians 5:2 For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night. 3 For when they say, “Peace and safety!” then sudden...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    26 major reasons to reject the Premillennial doctrine

    The book of Revelation is not just a futurist book. Look at this verse... Revelation 1:19 Write the things which you have seen, and the things which are, and the things which will take place after this. John was told to write about things that occurred in the past, as he did in Revelation 2...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Unlike Amillennialism, Premillennialism is based on assumptions and speculation rather than on any clear, straightforward scriptures

    If we can say that the thousand years represents the 7th set of a thousand year time periods in history, then we can make scripture say just about anything because scripture itself says no such thing. Nowhere does scripture say anything about history being divided into seven thousand year time...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Unlike Amillennialism, Premillennialism is based on assumptions and speculation rather than on any clear, straightforward scriptures

    I don't believe that approach makes any sense when it comes to books like Daniel and Revelation that undeniably contain a good amount of symbolism. I can't even begin to comprehend anyone saying what you said here in the second sentence. What do you mean by that? Clearly, the beast with seven...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Rapture ... soon?

    He's equating us with the whore Babylon by associating us with what it says in Revelation 18:2. What is wrong with these people? Pre-trib leads people to being completely unhinged.
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Rapture ... soon?

    Oh, so now you're associating Amils and Preterists, who are Christians who simply have different end times beliefs than you, with the whore Babylon (Rev 18:2)? How nice. You, a guy who foolishly gave credibility to a false prophet, is saying things like that about us? May God have mercy on your...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    Generally agree, except I would say that spiritual Israel consists only of those who are saved (spiritual Israel) regardless of physical nationality while national Israel consists of both saved and unsaved people since both saved and unsaved people physically descend from national Israel. The...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Does Daniel 7:21–22 Support Amillennialism or Premillennialism?

    Why do you just disregard the possibility that verse 12 is a parenthetical verse relating to the fate of 3 previous historical kingdoms (world empires) that came before the fourth one? The NIV and NCV translations even put the verse in parentheses. If you want to be taken seriously about this...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    Does Daniel 7:21–22 Support Amillennialism or Premillennialism?

    There is no such thing as an unbiased opinion on ChatGPT. It searches the Internet and collects biased opinions and then summarizes them. Those opinions may or may not be true, but they are not free from bias. You need to stick to just using it to help you format your posts and not use it for...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    26 major reasons to reject the Premillennial doctrine

    I'm talking about the many times that Jesus and the NT authors quoted OT scripture and explained what it means. I'm amill, post-trib. When it comes to the book of Revelation I'd describe my view as mostly idealist. But, I would not describe my overall view as fitting completely under the...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Can any of you link or share a good argument against FULL preterism?

    I had never seen that view before. We have several people on this forum who have views all to themselves. I don't know why they think that God only reveals truth to them and no one else.
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    Unlike Amillennialism, Premillennialism is based on assumptions and speculation rather than on any clear, straightforward scriptures

    No offense, but that's all based on speculation and I'm not into speculation. I don't see anything to indicate that the thousand years is intended to occur after six thousand years of history have ended or that circumcision on the 8th day has anything to do with it.
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    Unlike Amillennialism, Premillennialism is based on assumptions and speculation rather than on any clear, straightforward scriptures

    But, where do we start when our perspectives are so different? You would probably want to start in Daniel and Revelation, but as I've told you, I establish the foundation of my doctrine on what I believe are more clear and straightforward scriptures that aren't found in the most highly symbolic...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Rapture ... soon?

    Visions from who? He believed they were visions from God, right? That means he's claiming to be a prophet. Stop making excuses for him. He needs serious help, that's for sure. And he needs to repent of his false prophecy that led many astray.
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Rapture ... soon?

    Absolutely right. This was shameful and people need to repent of bringing shame upon God, His word, the gospel and on Christianity while leading many astray and causing them to now have doubts about Jesus coming again and about the rapture ever happening.
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    Rapture ... soon?

    Exactly. God doesn't make light of false prophets who falsely represent Him and His word while acting like their false prophecies are no big deal. This imposter needs to repent of falsely representing God and His word while leading many people astray.