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Good point. They certainly can't ever be right if they think it will happen before "the tribulation of those days" since it will clearly happen "after the tribulation of those days" instead at which point "heaven and earth shall pass away" and the eternal new heavens and new earth will be...

You seem to have missed my point. I'm not sure how carefully you are reading my posts. The text in Revelation 19:17-18 references "all people, slave and free, small and great". You are saying you expect me to believe that slaves and those who are small in significance take part in war? No, they...

Perhaps you should learn how to be more clear and explain exactly how you think those verses don't line up with the thread's claim? Do you think any unbelieving Israelite is among God's people?

No, I don't believe you can. Especially when I see how you interpret what I believe to be very straightforward passages like 2 Peter 3:10-13 that should be easy to interpret.

So, to be clear, you equate "all people, free and slave, small and great" to an Islamic army? It would be a very strange way of referring to an Islamic army as "all people, free and slave, small and great". Do people who are slaves and people who are small (in significance) sound like people who...

LOL. Yeah, just keep changing the date over and over again until the rapture actually happens and you might eventually be right. Hilarious.

Right, and that fits with Jesus also saying that heaven and earth will pass away at that time. Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away. 36 “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only. 37 But as the...

I specifically said you rarely use scripture and that is true. You rarely quote it in your posts. I did not say "you don't use Scripture", so please do not quote things that I didn't actually say. Where does it say that? Why do I have to keep asking you over and over again to show me which...

Where is there any indication of that at all in the text? 2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up...

You mentioned "only kings, generals, soldiers etc at Armageddon". Is there some reason why you don't include the reference to "all people, free and slave, both small and great"? Revelation 19:17 Then I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the birds...

To deny that 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10 is about the second coming shows that no one should take you seriously at all. It shows an incredible lack of discernment on your part.

What does that mean? You are not basing what you're saying on Romans 9:6-8 at all? I don't know of any other Israels besides the two Paul referenced there (unless you count Jacob). Based on Romans 9:6-8, I think the distinction is that one Israel is spiritual in nature and one is not, so I'm...

So, we can't go by what is actually written in Revelation 19:17-18 then? Why not? It says "all people, free and slave, small and great" but that somehow equates to the armies of Islam?

For some reason you don't answer some of my questions. I asked you if you also think mystery Babylon is a literal place on earth and if the Magog mentioned in Revelation 20 is a literal place on earth, despite it indicating that the reference to "Gog, and Magog" represents the nations or heathen...

Not from you, no. I don't mean any offense by that. I just know that I disagree strongly with your end times doctrine other than your post-trib belief, so I can't say that I trust your understanding of the book of Daniel. And, when did I say I don't understand? I didn't. I can't say I know for...

I agree. It's quite clear to me that the following verses refer to the same event... Matthew 25:41 “Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: Revelation 20:15 And anyone not found written in...

Please answer my questions first and then I'll answer yours.

What were you saying here? Looks like you didn't finish your thought or something. Can you please address what I said in post #123? Sure, but when it comes to doctrine, the New Testament shines light on the Old Testament, so I base my understanding of the Old Testament primarily on what Jesus...

You THINK you understand them, but they are not written in literal, straightforward text that can be easily discerned with little effort. I prefer to base my doctrine on clear, straightforward passages that don't contain a bunch of symbolism. I don't know why I keep making that point to you. If...

Aren't there lost people on the entire planet? How else would God accomplish that? How exactly do you think Jesus will destroy His enemies when He comes if not by fire? You think man's fallible "common sense" is more important than spiritual discernment from the Holy Spirit for understanding...