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  1. Stranger

    Salvation loss. Is it possible?

    You make no sense. You say it does not matter what repent means but you insist we must repent. Repent doesn't mean eat an apple a day. Now what? The unbeliever is not required to repent to be saved. He is required to believe. Repentance comes with belief. Stranger
  2. Stranger

    The book of Job - real or allegorical?

    Because specific churches was who he was addressing? Stranger
  3. Stranger

    Salvation loss. Is it possible?

    More word-smith. I am not admitting anything. I am telling you Judas was one of the twelve. Big revelation. You have no Scripture that says Judas cast out demons or healed the sick. The twelve as a group did. Stranger
  4. Stranger

    Salvation loss. Is it possible?

    Or, don't answer because Scripture goes against you. How about that one? Stranger
  5. Stranger

    Salvation loss. Is it possible?

    What I consider is you're avoiding (John 10:26). So, we who are believers, believe because we are His sheep. We don't become sheep because we believe. Correct? Which shows your interpretation of the prodigal son is wrong. It is of salvation. Not a loss of salvation. Stranger
  6. Stranger

    Salvation loss. Is it possible?

    Yes, Judas is one of the twelve. Stranger
  7. Stranger

    Salvation loss. Is it possible?

    No, I am saying the story of the prodigal son is one of salvation. Exactly right, Adam and Eve were not saved because they hadn't sinned yet. But you are interpreting the prodigal son as being saved already with the father before he was lost. It doesn't work. Pay attention. Stranger
  8. Stranger

    Salvation loss. Is it possible?

    But that is not what it said. (John 10:26) "But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep..." Stranger
  9. Stranger

    Salvation loss. Is it possible?

    Find a verse that says Judas cast out demons. Don't give me the 'twelve'. Stranger
  10. Stranger

    Salvation loss. Is it possible?

    Yes, Adam and Eve were without sin. And they were not saved or redeemed. They were simply the people of God in a relationship with God. You however want to take the story of the prodigal son to mean the son was redeemed before he was lost. Silly. The prodigal son is a story of salvation...
  11. Stranger

    Salvation loss. Is it possible?

    Like I said, you're the one saying Judas, a devil, did miracles and cast out demons. Not me. Just because the '12' did it, doesn't mean everyone cast out a demon or did a miracle. Stranger
  12. Stranger

    Salvation loss. Is it possible?

    So God didn't know what He was creating? Stranger
  13. Stranger

    Salvation loss. Is it possible?

    You said sheep are always born again believers. Christ is telling these Jews that they believe not because they are not his sheep. Do you see? They are sheep first. Because they are sheep, they believe. Thus sheep are a picture of the people of God, not just born-again. Stranger
  14. Stranger

    Salvation loss. Is it possible?

    Well, God created the devil...didn't he? No, you're the one that was saying that. Stranger
  15. Stranger

    Salvation loss. Is it possible?

    (John 10:26) "But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you." Stranger
  16. Stranger

    Salvation loss. Is it possible?

    That is right. That is what Judas is, a devil. Note how the disciples were decieved. (John 6:69) "And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ..." Which is why Jesus said, (70), "have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil" Jesus always knew who Judas was. A...
  17. Stranger

    Salvation loss. Is it possible?

    No, that is what you are saying. That sheep represent the people of God...yes. That the prodigal son story shows a loss of salvation...no. The prodigal son story is a picture of salvation. Not a loss of salvation. Stranger
  18. Stranger

    Salvation loss. Is it possible?

    I've showed you a verse that proves Judas was a devil when Jesus chose him. We are not told anything about Judas before that. Stranger
  19. Stranger

    Salvation loss. Is it possible?

    No, you're placing the believer in a saved state before he was lost. It doesn't work. Stranger
  20. Stranger

    Salvation loss. Is it possible?

    One of the twelve, yes. That the twelve went about healing and casting out demons, yes. But we are not told that Judas did. Yes, Judas 'is' a devil. Not he will become a devil. That is what he is and what he was when Christ chose him. Stranger