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@kcnalp please my friend, don't fear that we would determine nasty things against you, disassociate ourselves from you, speak words that would offend or invite others to malign or bring prejudiced charges against you, just because we believe eternal torment is heresy. Far from it. We love Jesus...

OT never overrules the NT? Are you saying in other words that the OT, when perfectly clear, cannot be trusted because you think the NT overrules the old? That the OT wasn't as inspired as the NT? That the OT and the NT contradict each other?

So posting scriptures without any explanation as to how you view them isn't much help in getting to know you. So I have to keep asking what may seem like the same question over and over. How do you reconcile the concept of a Trinity God being everywhere, yet one of the Trinity members "coming"...

Okay. So there is the Father speaking to His Son, let us make man in our image. Does that mean that they are both omnipresent?

@Truth7t7 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might...

Before getting all facetious and all, best to make sure you're reading and understanding my posts properly. Your reply is quite irrelevant to our conversation, and not something I disagree with. In fact, I don't disagree with any of the scriptures you've posted. And none of them contradict what...

@Truth7t7 this thread is about the second coming. Who's coming?

They don't say what you want them to say... That the Trinity God is everywhere. What you are basically alluding is that nine of the three members of the Godhead can individually separate themselves physically from one another. We all know they are one in character, in purpose, in righteousness...

I am what would be called in most Christian churches, an annihilationist. I make absolutely no apologies for that. To anybody. For two prime reasons. 1. Any alternative, particularly but by no means exclusively, eternal torment, utterly disgusts me. Of all so called Christian doctrines...

That doesn't support omnipresence. In the book of Daniel the Almighty Father was seen seated in the heavenly sanctuary. As also was recorded in Revelation. KJV Daniel 7:9-10, 13 9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the...

They are slaves to their institution while they openly disobey God. They faithfully obey "mother" while trampling upon the truth and the revelations of Father. They boast of their faithfulness to defend "mother", all the while murdering and persecuting those who defend the Father. "In vain do...

Do those scriptures say that no branch or facet of the church will apostatize? Or is Jesus saying that the church as a whole shall survive the testing and temptations of the enemy? Catholics blindly and stubbornly resist the idea that there were Christians upon the earth throughout Christian...

KJV Luke 22:25-26 25 And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors. 26 But ye shall not be so: but he that is greatest among you, let him be as the younger; and he that is chief, as he that doth serve.

You don't remember telling everyone here that your church has been in a state of apostasy for several hundred years? I would state your church has been in apostasy since the 6th century when she accepted the baubles of political office from the dragon. KJV Revelation 13:2 2 And the beast which...

Christ is King. Your pope may claim to be a king, but Christ did not appoint anyone else to His position. He is well capable of ministering to His people without the necessity of a counterfeit mediatory.

One who represents Him in character. Not one who attempts to counterfeit him.

So the God sitting on the throne in heaven is also sitting at the table next to you? All three? Can you show me that from scripture?

Well, the church did then, sure. But it wasn't long before the church, at least your church, was teaching something totally different. And according to your own testimony, they're teaching something else today. Your church has about as much credibility as my neighbors cat.

Not according to any of the scriptures you quoted. Nor can you prove that you have any more right to claim authority than I. In fact, I have already exercised authority many times in the name of Jesus, and God backed it up.

Depends on what you mean by trinity. Do you mean what the Bible actually teaches concerning the trinity/Godhead, or do you mean the Orthodox creeds concerning the trinity? I can certainly defend the Godhead, and three divine persons from scripture, that's easy. Defending the Orthodox Trinity and...