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I prefer to follow the example that Jesus and the Apostles gave us and be baptized in water. I suspect there is a reason they gave us that example to follow. I prefer to do what Jesus told us to do in Matthew 28:19 and the Apostles did along with the what the 1st century Christians did...

A true baptism is ALSO a sprinkle or a dunk in/with water. Scripture makes that very clear.

The Bereans read/researched Scripture to see if what Paul was telling them was true.....;) I see what you are saying now. You ask a legitimate question. :) I am taking this conversation using the preconceived thought that we are talking about the average person TODAY who can read. As we know...

Yeah'.....ummmmm.....once again kiddo......being a good person and being righteous are NOT the same thing. Thank you for your time.

We have already been down this road kiddo. You say 1 Peter 3:21 doesn't mean (in context) that baptism saves....even though is says "baptism now saves you". For 2,000 years Christians have preached and practiced OPPOSITE of what you believe. You have accepted the teachings of the...

Hmmmmm......I am unable to find a single passage in Romans 3 that says that an atheist can't be a good person. Would you care to share that passage?

We are discussing if work/good works are needed to obtain salvation. I said: You have to work (read/research Scripture to see if it is true) to obtain faith. It just isn't given to you. Even after you have faith (belief) you still have to work on that belief (possibly by defending your belief)...

I know it doesn't say that in YOUR bible but it does say it in The Bible.

Ummmm....OK....would you care to share that passage?

Thank you brakelite. To the best of my knowledge there is none. Soooo does that mean we are NOT to baptize in the name of all three members of the Godhead? Is that your theory??? I suspect you prefer to do what Jesus told us to do? His ORDER before he rose into heaven is good enough for me...

Hi brakelite. I think it's been a long time since I have responded/seen any of your post.....Have you been gone or have our paths not crossed lately? If my memory serves me correctly you seem to be one of the biggest arbiter's of Scripture on this forum. You even have your own website were...

I didn't ignore anything Ezra. I believe all of Scripture. The topic at hand is baptism. Are there other things we MUST do to be saved? YES...of course. But we are talking about baptism which is the OP. If you want to start a thread about other ways to be saved and argue for/against it...

You need Scripture to tell you that reading/researching Scripture and defending your belief is a good work in the eyes of God??? Are you being serious???

Thank you. I specifically asked you if YOU did good works. Your answer(s) have been faith leads to good works and WE do good works because of our faith. You STILL have not told me that YOU do good works instead you keep speaking in broad terms answering for every Christian on earth of which...

Ummmmm......You have to be a good person to be saved kiddo soooo being good person does have to do with being saved. There are atheist who are good people.....they don't have Christ so you need to work on that theory ;)

Being a good person and being righteous are not the same thing kiddo sooooo I don't know what point you are TRYING to make. o_O We are none the less still told to pursue/strive for righteousness. If we do strive for righteousness all our other "things" (what we will eat, drink, wear) will be...

Ummmm.....Yes it does. Because if he had blasphemed the Holy Spirit he would not be saved......Just like Scripture says (Luke 12:10)

I know...I agree and never said that....Faith without works is dead....Just like Scripture says and I agree with. Faith (belief), baptism, grace and works save us....Just like Scripture says, just like I have been saying. Mary

Well, you said (and I quote): He had no opportunity to do anything. You don't know what he did before he died since Scripture doesn't tell us. He could have been a really good person. A recent convert to Christianity. Maybe he just made that one bad mistake in his life: stealing. Sooooo how...

If we are compelled to do works then we don't need faith.....we would just do the works. Cut James 2:24 out of the bible.....that's your problem...not mine. I believe all of Scripture: Faith without works is DEAD.