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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics - see the evidence

    It is six feet under and they are frustrated that they have no scriptural arguments to make in response to us. That's why all they do is whine about insults despite making a lot of insulting comments themselves. If they had anything in response to what we're showing in scripture, they would show...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics - see the evidence

    You act like a little child. It's pointless trying to have an adult discussion with you. You have no ability to stay focused and just stick to the topic. You post incoherent gibberish whenever you do try to talk about scripture and the rest of the time you just make things personal and try to...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics - see the evidence

    You are the one being dishonest. You said: Are you telling me that you don't consider "hate, accusations, finger pointing" to be insults?
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    You missed the point. I'm saying there is no basis for seeing Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21 as being parallel up to Matthew 24:13, Mark 13:13 and Luke 21:19, respectively, but then, somehow, you have Jesus jumping far ahead in time in the next verses of Matthew 24:14 and Mark 13:14, but not in...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics - see the evidence

    Yes, I am. I can see when someone knows they have nothing to refute what has been said and is trying to find an excuse to not address it and that's exactly what you're doing.
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics - see the evidence

    Look what happens every time pre-tribs have no answers to our posts. They start complaining about insults, as if they haven't frequently made insults themselves. That's always their go to excuse to get out of admitting that they have nothing to refute what we've said.
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    I'm not rearranging the verses. If anyone is doing that, it's you because you have the verses in each account being in the same order chronologically up to a point, but then, somehow, that's no longer the case when it gets to Matthew 24:14, Mark 13:14 and Luke 21:20, respectively. For no good...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    Nice job of not addressing my point. That's your opinion, but you can't back it up with scripture. Do me a favor and read the first 2 posts in this thread and tell me what you think about what I said here: Unlike Amillennialism, Premillennialism is based on assumptions and speculation rather...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    LOL. What do you mean "the alive remain"? Where does it say that the alive remain after the dead are caught up to Christ? Nowhere. When it says the dead in Christ rise first it means they will first be resurrected and then those who are still alive and remain until the coming of the Lord at that...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics - see the evidence

    You are just an immature child who is not able to have an adult discussion. You are not willing to take more than a few seconds to analyze anything that is being said. You must have a very short attention span. It's pointless to waste any time trying to discuss scripture with you.
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics - see the evidence

    Translation: You have nothing to refute his claims and you have come up with excuses as to why you won't address them.
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics - see the evidence

    Wrong. My beliefs are not convoluted and I'm able to explain them clearly. How about you read the second post in this thread and tell me what is convoluted about anything I said here about what I believe and why: Unlike Amillennialism, Premillennialism is based on assumptions and speculation...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    I have followed the same discussion that WPM is talking about and The Light claimed to have answered WPM's questions when he absolutely did not. I'm not saying he didn't answer them the way WPM would have liked. I'm saying he did not attempt to answer them at all except for a brief, vague...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    Yes, it's very convenient that he somehow always misses the posts containing insults from pre-tribs, isn't it?
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    How about showing what you believe using scripture then? Vague comments like this do nothing to support your doctrine. Use scripture to clearly show how you come to your conclusions. Can you do that? You haven't so far. If you can't do that then there is no reason whatsoever to take anything you...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    You say it's not a problem to back up your belief in 2 raptures and then you proceed to do NOTHING to back it up besides this vague response. It is impossible to take you and your vague nonsense seriously. You accuse others of having false doctrine while being completely incapable of making a...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    Agree. Anyone who sees two raptures in 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17, as @The Light does, clearly is just twisting scripture to make it say what they want it to say to fit their convoluted understanding of Revelation. Paul was very clear in 1 Thess 4:14-17 that there will be one rapture of the church...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    Congratulations on leading one person astray with your hyper-spiritualized version of the Olivet Discourse. As if that means anything to me? Those with discernment know that your posts relating to the Olivet Discourse are complete nonsense.
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    No, it's not a literal 1,000 years. Thanks for making my point for me. Premils often are not able to discern what is literal and what is not when it comes to Bible prophecy. The word "thousand" is used figuratively rather than literally several times in scripture, including in verses like...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    Because it says the Messiah would be cut off AFTER the end of the 69th week. What comes after the 69th week? The 70th week. Also, the six things listed in Daniel 9:24 could only be fulfilled by Christ and His sacrifice. There was no other way to make reconciliation for sins except for Christ to...