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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    Communicating with you is very painful. You can't even answer simple questions. A chart alone does not clearly answer my question. But, based on this chart, it seems that you believe that what is recorded in Matthew 24:15-22 is something Jesus said either immediately after or shortly after...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    Do you see them as all being parallel up to Matthew 24:14, Mark 13:13 and Luke 21:19, respectively? In other words, do you see Matthew 24:1-14, Mark 13:1-13 and Luke 21:5-19 as being parallel passages (without all the exact same details)? If so, I don't know why you would not see each of them...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    You tried to answer my question, but your responses are confusing. It seems like you think that nothing in Luke 21 is parallel to anything in Matthew 24, but you do believe both are part of the Olivet Discourse. I'm not sure if that's actually right or not, but that's how your responses come...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Will Christ utter new words in a Premil millennium?

    You missed my point completely. In another post you were talking about Jesus and His people dictating what people could or couldn't do by using their rods of iron to keep them in line. That didn't seem to line up with the idea of people having the free will to choose to do what they want to do...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Will Christ utter new words in a Premil millennium?

    I already said that we (you and I) know that nothing will be added to the Word, but you're not addressing my point. I'm saying that Revelation 22:18-19 refers to adding to or taking away from the book of Revelation itself. I was only talking about that passage in particular. Revelation 22:18...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    Matthew 22:7 But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city. You don't think that the king in this verse represents God? Clearly, this verse is describing the king's wrath and the king represents God. So, I...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    Okay, this is very confusing. Based on that post, you are saying you believe that what Jesus said in Luke 21:25-36 immediately followed what He said in Luke 21:24 and then after He said what is recorded in Luke 21:36 He then said what He is recorded as saying within Matthew 24:1-14? Right? Does...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    You haven't given me any reason to take you seriously, so LOLs are the most appropriate response to most of the nonsense that you are saying. You made vague references to sources without quoting anything from them to back up what you're saying. I'm just supposed to take your word for it that...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    My main point is simply that what is recorded in Luke 21:7-36 is Luke's version of the Olivet Discourse as it was told to him by eyewitnesses. A secondary point is that Jesus would have said some of the same things that He said in the Olivet Discourse on other occasions, but you seem to disagree...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    While that chart was somewhat helpful, it doesn't really answer my simple question about which verses you think fit between Luke 21:24 and Matthew 24:15 in terms of the order in which Jesus said what He did in the Olivet Discourse, if any. If you answer that question then I'll respond to your...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    LOL. Douggg, I know which verses contain Jesus's words. That was never a question. It's amazing that you can't even discern what I was asking for you to tell me. Forget it.
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    But, do you consider them being killed in 70 AD to be God's wrath or not? Douggg, I ask you very simple questions and you have trouble with them. That's very strange to me. I think you need to give all these things much more thought and ask God for wisdom (James 1:5-7) before you draw any...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    And what is your answer to that question? Just tell me which verses you think record what He said between those 2 verses, if any. If you actually do that, then I will answer your questions. This is a very simple request I'm making here. Otherwise, if you continue to not do that, then forget it...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    You know that I was making a genuine effort to get along with you not long ago and we did get along for some time there. But, then you started being rude again and didn't seem interested in talking to me any other way, so I just figured you got bored with being nice and you prefer being rude...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    I don't even know what your opinion is of what Matthew 22:7 means. Can you at least tell me that?
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    This is hopeless. You can't even answer a simple question. Going to that site does not tell me which verses, if any, you think record things Jesus said after saying what is recorded in Luke 21:24 and before what is recorded in Matthew 24:15. How can you not understand such an incredibly simple...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    Of course you can't force me to agree with your opinion, but I'm trying to get you to think about this and give an honest opinion free of doctrinal bias. I don't think you have studied that parable closely before. So, don't just make assumptions about it. I told you that I'm talking only about...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    ARE BELIEVERS BORN AGAIN WHILE ON EARTH?

    Amen! Let me put it this way. To think that Romans 6:7 is talking about physical death is like thinking that Romans 6:2 is talking about physical death, which it clearly is not. Romans 6:1 What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? 2 By no means! We are those...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    What do you mean "the kjv online"? What is that? I use biblegateway.com. But, I don't even know what you're saying here. My question is VERY simple. Do you think Jesus said anything between what is recorded in Luke 21:20-24 and what is recorded in Matthew 24:15? If yes, which verses do you think...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    Douggg, don't make this more complicated than it needs to be. I'm talking about the ones who were killed at that time. Was that God's wrath or not? Matthew 22:7 indicates that it was. Do you agree or not? I don't know why you are being so evasive. Just be honest, please.