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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    I did stick to the subject. You were talking about what you thought was amusing about how people interpret Matthew 24:14 and I talked about how amusing it is how you interpret related verses that come before that one that help establish the context of that verse. Are you not reading everything...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    No, we are not. That's a man-made rule you came up with. I'm not obligated to follow your man-made rules. Jesus could answer their questions in whatever order He wanted to. He was not obligated to first answer their first question. I don't need to have someone who thinks that Matthew and Luke...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    Amil is primarily based on clear, straightforward passages so this idea that it is Amils who don't take things literally while Premils do is false. The difference between Amils (other than Amils like TribulationSigns) and Premils is that Amils are much better at discerning whether a given text...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    LOL. What a bunch of gibberish. LOL at ridiculous nonsense like "apostate churches, nursing on dead traditions and false doctrines". It's a minor miracle that you are an Amil because you share something in common with Premils in terms of often not being able to discern what is literal and what...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics - see the evidence

    LOL at you talking about someone else's beliefs being too convoluted. That is hilarious. No one's beliefs are more convoluted than yours.
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics - see the evidence

    Please read the first two posts of this other thread where I show why Premillennialism is not biblical while Amilennialism is biblical: Unlike Amillennialism, Premillennialism is based on assumptions and speculation rather than on any clear, straightforward scriptures As I show in that thread...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics - see the evidence

    I'm not entirely sure of what you're asking here. If you are asking if I disagree with Premillennialism, then it should be clear by now that I do. I'm an Amillennialist. If you want to know what I believe and why then read the first two posts of this thread: Unlike Amillennialism...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Will Christ utter new words in a Premil millennium?

    It seems that you take Zechariah 14:12 literally, right? Do you take verse 13 literally as well? Zechariah 14:12 This is the plague with which the Lord will strike all the nations that fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh will rot while they are still standing on their feet, their eyes will...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Will Christ utter new words in a Premil millennium?

    If you're going to promote Calvinism here, then I'm going to refute it. Every time. This is a public forum, so if you can talk about this topic here, so can I. You do not believe there is anything we need to work out ourselves as it relates to salvation. Why don't you just admit that? In your...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    That guy spiritualizes almost everything. Why would you think you can trust anything he says? There is no indication at all that Jesus was not being literal there. Matthew 24:16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: 17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    My takeaway from this post is that you think your "Markan sandwich" is edible and mine is not. Whatever. Also, I can't ever be convinced that Luke 21:20-24 is not a parallel passage to Matthew 24:15-22. Some translations of Daniel 9:27 only mention a singular abomination rather than abominations...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    He answers multiple questions and was not obligated to answer them in any certain chronological order.
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    They just claim it's the 144,000 who are part of the supposed 1st rapture, but there is no description of the 144,000 being raptured in Revelation.
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    No, I haven't. Like you, I showed where I see each verse as fitting in the three categories you described. I rearranged nothing. Don't lie, Douggg. You're better than that. What do you even mean by that? I'm not rearranging the text. Are you saying I'm not taking everything Jesus said in...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    He actually thinks Paul references two raptures in 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17. LOL. He thinks that what Paul is saying there is that first the dead in Christ are resurrected and raptured and taken to heaven. Then, later Jesus comes and those who are alive and remain are raptured. LOL. He denies...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    Does he ever post anything else but gibberish? Not that I've seen. Pre-tribs try to interpret the book of Revelation in isolation from the rest of scripture and they end up causing many contradictions with other scriptures. It's just ridiculous.
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    And who was in charge of the armies that killed the bad guys and order them to do so? That was God, right? I would describe that as God's wrath coming against the high priests and Pharisees since He is the One who had them killed because of rejecting His Son. I disagree. The parable indicates...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Will Christ utter new words in a Premil millennium?

    I'm not going to try to debate about what you're saying here, but I'm just going to ask you a question. Do you think the Canon that we currently have is sufficient for all of our needs? Or do you think there could be something missing that could be affecting our lives in some way because of not...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    Will Christ utter new words in a Premil millennium?

    That's not what Paul is saying there. You (not Paul) saying that God ensures "that we will do so" (work out our salvation) makes Paul's claim that we need to work out our own salvation with fear and trembling completely meaningless. If God ensure that we will do so, then there's nothing that we...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    It's amusing to me that you think wars, pestilences, famines and earthquakes in other parts of the world besides Judea and Israel would be referenced in relation to a coming time of tribulation and wrath in Judea and Jerusalem. Global events being a sign of a coming local event? That makes no...