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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    God used the Romans to take His vengeance on Jewish unbelievers for rejecting His Son. Do you not think that what happened in 70 AD was God's punishment against unbelieving Jews? You are aware that God can even use evil people to do His will if He wants to, right? In Revelation 17:16-17 we can...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    Yes, I did exaggerate. It seems to be just a vast majority of the Bible that you spiritualize instead of literally all of it.
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    Yes, you have. Why are you denying that now? So, tell me how you interpret this then.. Mark 13:1 As Jesus was leaving the temple, one of his disciples said to him, “Look, Teacher! What massive stones! What magnificent buildings!” 2 “Do you see all these great buildings?” replied Jesus. “Not one...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    Douggg, stop being so ignorant and stop trying to tell me what to do. There is no excuse for your ignorance. Do you never look at the Greek words that the English words are translated from? The word "world" there is translated from the Greek word "aion" and is translated as "age" in other...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    Translation: "Look how I'm able to spiritualize every word in the Olivet Discourse! Isn't that impressive?!". This is getting very boring. I feel sorry for people like you that make things more difficult than they should be.
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    Hello? Do you think I was just making that up? Am I coming across as if I'm not being serious? The Olivet Discourse is not recorded in the book of John. Just before the Olivet Discourse the disciples were talking about the temple buildings (plural) standing at that time and Jesus told them they...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    Do me a favor. Since you think He said what is recorded in Luke 21:20-24 separately from what is recorded in Matthew 24:15-22, put your money where your mouth is for once and combine Matthew 24 and Luke 21 together to show me when you think Jesus said what is recorded in Matthew 24:15-22 in...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    Nothing but rambling gibberish from you. You like to make things so complicated that only you can understand. The truth doesn't work that way. You might as well just say "Hey everyone, look how spiritual I am with the way I spiritualize the entire Bible! Aren't I the most spiritual person you've...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    LOL. Are you a child? But, by all means, show me where the Olivet Discourse is recorded in the book of John.
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    You are again changing the text to fit your doctrine. It does not say it "will be umatched in the history of the world". It is saying it would be unlike any other great tribulation. How could any future great tribulation match the flood in Noah's day when all but 8 people were killed? There's no...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    That has nothing to do with the Olivet Discourse. Why can't you get it through your head that John 2:18-21 has nothing to do with the Olivet Discourse? It has a completely different context.
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    That is why Matthew worded the questions differently to show that. I don't doubt that the disciples, at that time, probably assumed that Christ's second coming and the end of the age would occur when the temple buildings were destroyed, but that is not what happened. No, it isn't. Your denial...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    You make simple things complicated and that's entirely your own fault. You imagine yourself to have more spiritual discernment than everyone else because of spiritualizing almost everything. Having spiritual discernment means being able to discern the difference between text that speaks of...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    No, it does not. Jesus said those in Judea would need to flee, not those throughout the world. The context of verse 22 is in relation to Judea, not the entire earth. You are changing the text to fit your doctrine.
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    So, I guess you think Paul didn't know what he was talking about when he said the destruction that will occur upon the unexpected arrival of the day of the Lord as a thief in the night would be "sudden"? 1 Thessalonians 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    No, they asked two questions. They only asked about one sign of His coming and the end of the age/world. They did not ask about the sign of His coming and also ask about the sign of the end of the age/world. You should try actually reading Mark 13 and Luke 21 so you can get the full picture of...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    The marriage supper won't happen until Jesus returns. After He descends from heaven, He's not just turning around and going back there. That's ridiculous. We will meet Him in the air, not in heaven. If we were going to heaven with Him we would just meet Him there instead of "in the air". So...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    Douggg, you make a lot of arguments from silence. Do you know what an argument from silence is? It's when you make an argument based on what something doesn't specifically indicate as if that alone proves that the verse is not saying a certain thing. In this case, you argue that it does not...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    I have done that lately because of my frustration at you not responding when I tried to have us both stop doing that. You continued to make insults in your posts towards me and towards Amil even after I did that. You're not fooling me with your innocence act here. Give me a break. LOL. Again, I...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    The "watch rapture view"

    You're not thinking very carefully about this. When will it happen that the tares are cast into the fire? At the judgment after standing before Jesus, just like the goats in Matthew 25:31-46. So, the context of Matthew 13:30 is in relation to the judgment, not in relation to what happens right...