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Relax, my friend. Our salvation is not at stake in these discussions. As Han Solo said, I must be hitting pretty close to the mark to get you all riled up like that. :eek: The reason I left out why you suggested the 3 points is to summarize the conversation. Anyone can read your posts still...

Now, semantics are being invoked, word meanings have to be qualified to maintain the doctrine where the normal use of the word cannot stand.

So, with @APAK's help, we have thus far uncovered 3 classes of unbeleivers who are saved. Immature. Unsound mind. The Abraham's of the world, those who believe in God, even if not believing Jesus is the Lord and Savior. Regarding #3, someone said such people just did not yet have the name...

You don’t get to dictate terms in this thread. If you want to qualify the term ‘unbeliever’ to exclude ‘sound and mature’ minds, that’s on you. It still does not help with why the Abrahams of the world are saved despite not believing that Jesus is their lord and savior. I predict another...

This really deserves its own thread. Every serious student of literature knows context is important. Common backpedaling tactics when one's doctrines are challenged include: Invoke "context" as if that automatically resolves the incongruity. Invoke mantra "Scripture does not contradict...

Yup. :D The term is somewhat esoteric. In the context of the OP, it means not believing in Jesus as ones' Lord and Savior. Yet, as you pointed out, most humans do believe in something, like Abraham believing in God. Abraham being saved undermines the universal claims many have made here. And...

Hoax (blood) - although I'd love for it to be true. Why haven't CBN and other Christian media reported on it?

Well, the OP makes the case that such reasoning applies to more than just Abraham.

And how is that different in our ultra polarized society from anyone you have a political difference with? You may have missed this question.

Just how many chapters does one have to incorporate to consider the text is interpretted "in context." There is simply no way to turn judged by "action" into your idol, "belief" - no matter how many more words invoked to dilute this point.

It goes to show the 360 degree attack Christian Nationalists must overcome. The Left are totally unhinged, completely unable to have a debate. The idea that Sovereign States ought to act in their own best interest - rather than new world order, globalist interests - is met with sheer lunacy. I...

Agreed. How does that change the narrative?

That reminds me. I asked in an earlier post about you writing commentaries. How many chapters hae you done this for?

Well, my friend, obviously we completely disaree on this one. It is Scripture, as I've shown and it is the ONLY logical means for any human to practice - judge people by what they do not what they believe.

So, now you put a wall of fat and body art between people and Christ?

Not sure what translation you are reading. From ESV Therefore you have no excuse, O man, every one of you who judges. For in passing judgment on another you condemn yourself, because you, the judge, practice the very same things. 2 We know that the judgment of God rightly falls on those who...

Assertion. Not proof.

Not an answer to my question of What construction of words would support my view?

Of course you did ignore it and you are ignoring it. "Especially" does not mean "exclusively." You draw a hard line on textual contradiction. Just because some things contradict does not mean there is no value in the whole of it. But I suppose that is why this is a powerful IDOL. It's all or...

I didn't say that.