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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    No, you can't argue that someone who can never die can die. I showed you the meaning of the word "immortal", which is that you can never die, and you apparently ignored it. Whatever. I would like to get back to the topic of the thread now. I'm not going to talk about this here anymore. We talked...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Read what he said towards the end of that post and then you should see what he meant by that. The word "this" there is translated from the Greek word "houtos", which can also mean "the same" like it is in this verse, for example: Matthew 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    No, I'm talking about verse 29 because I was originally asking covenantee to explain his view of it because of how he does not believe that Jesus returns "immediately after the tribulation of those days". So, he apparently thinks that the rest of verse 29 figuratively describes a period of time...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    That makes sense, so I think we need to have the preterists here give their input on this because they think that "this generation" must mean a generation that existed at the time Jesus was speaking. When you look at what the word "houtos" actually means, you can see that is not the case. It can...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    Okay, so please don't act as if you can speak for me then. No one wants others misrepresenting their view, right? Including you? So, please stop doing that. Right, that's what I've been saying. From God's eternal perspective, in contrast to the real time perspective, things aren't just changing...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    SETTLING THE FALSE THEORY OF REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY

    Actually, the evidence that Paul gave that God did not "cast away all the Jews for their unbelief" was not some future event that will prove that, but rather he proved it by the fact that there was a remnant of saved, elect believers in his day, which included himself. Romans 11:1 I say then...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    Some Amills believe there is an individual Antichrist. This shows that you don't even understand Amill because you think the Amill doctrine somehow doesn't allow for an individual Antichrist. Most Amills do not believe that, but there's nothing about the doctrine in and of itself which says...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    You tried to counter the claim about Darby by quoting ECFs as supposedly talking about their belief in a pre-trib rapture when nothing they said actually indicated as such. You completely misinterpreted their words just like you do scripture. The reality is that there is no credible evidence to...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    But, I wonder if you fully understand the point that was being made. If I'm understanding the point correctly, then we first would need to define who the tares represent. Matthew 13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    How about you just accept that you don't understand what I believe, regardless of the reason for that, and stop trying to speak for me? Immortal means you can never die. How then can you change to be mortal when becoming immortal means you will live forever and never die? You're not making any...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Yes, I know, but I would have never thought that was the case. But, I appreciate you making that clear, anyway. I completely understand and wasn't thinking otherwise.
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Now, this is very interesting. I had not considered that the Greek word "houtos" can mean "the same" and not just "this". But, after looking it up, I see that is indeed the case. For example, it's translated as "the same" in Matthew 24:13. Matthew 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    Everything. You didn't copy my method of interpretation. You do NOT understand what I believe. Trust me, I know. I know when my view is being misrepresented. Don't try to talk for me. I have explained to you that from God's perspective of the parable of the wheat and tares He can see who will...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    So, what do these supposed mortal survivors of Christ's return who came against Jerusalem but somehow survived (why?), do during the supposed future thousand years? Zechariah 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Why didn't you just end your post here and wait to find out instead of continuing on and wasting your time making a straw man argument? Jesus was talking to Jews at that time, so that's why I think He might have been referring to them and their race in particular. But, I've said that I also...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    There's no need to explain that you don't agree with everything he believes. He is an Amill and you are a Premill, so you obviously don't agree on everything.
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    Well, that's quite a ridiculous argument that no one can take seriously. But, that isn't my hermeneutics. You have made it abundantly clear many times that you do not understand what I believe, so stop trying to talk for me. Nonsense. Scripture obviously never teaches such a thing. We...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    Nope. I was addressing what most Premills believe, whether they acknowledge it or not. You missed the point. Talk about strawman arguments. You make them all the time and this is just the latest one. Did you even read my post? It isn't in regards to the duration of God's kingdom, it's in...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    You have divided what the blood of Christ brought together as one long ago (Ephesians 2:11-22). Jew and Gentile believers are all one in Christ Jesus (Galatians 3:28). There is no such thing as "the gentile bride". Your eschatology and theology are completely messed up.
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Yes, that's what I'm saying. I think I made that pretty clear. So, definition 2 is the broad definition and the word can be used to mean that broad definition. And then 2a and 2b are narrower variations of 2.