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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Do you imagine that I care at all about what you think after you acted like such a clown earlier by claiming that all the rest of us are wrong about everything? If so, think again. I don't take you seriously. At all.
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    There are other Greek experts who disagree with him, so this means nothing to me. When you look at the various English translations, they occasionally translate verses quite differently, which shows that even the Greek experts who translated our English Bibles sometimes disagreed on the meaning...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    You're not understanding what you're seeing there. Here is what WPM posted: The word genea means: 1) fathered, birth, nativity 2) that which has been begotten, men of the same stock, a family 2a) the several ranks of natural descent, the successive members of a genealogy 2b)...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    I'm having a lot of trouble seeing how that can be the case. Can you explain that? I've asked covenantee to explain that as well. No, that's referring to His coming and the end of the age being near. You only quoted up to verse 34 there, but the next verse indicates the time when that passage...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    I went back to see if there were any posts I've missed in this discussion and found this one. No, I'm not asking that. Do you understand that the times of the Gentiles follow 70 AD? The times of the Gentiles refer to the times after which Jerusalem and its temple was destroyed and the Gentiles...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    I could see someone trying to claim the same thing about the use of that word in Romans 12:1 referring back to Romans 11:32, in Philippians 4:1 referring back to Philippians 3:13 and in Ephesians 4:1 referring back to Ephesians 3:13. So, I disagree with your claim. The disciples asked "WHEN...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    As I've pointed out a couple times already, in Matthew 23:36, this generation (genea) refers to a type of people going all the way back to Cain. So, I believe that definition 2b that you showed there is being used for the word "genea" in that verse. And, like you, I believe definition 2 of the...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Okay, I didn't see that post before I made my post. But, you didn't really address my point about Matthew 23:36, though. I pointed out that "this generation" Jesus referenced there existed since the time of Cain and Abel because it talks about "this generation" even being responsible for the...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Yes, I could allow that Jesus was talking about people in general there rather than just the Jewish race. The word "genea" can be used to refer to people in general. The fact that it has several definitions requires us to take a closer look at all of this to see what exactly Jesus was saying...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Can you explain why you are not even willing to address anything I said in post 869? It doesn't really make me feel like wanting to continue the discussion if you don't want to address my points. If that's how you want it to be, then let's just agree to disagree at this point.
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Do you not recall that I showed you examples of that word being used to refer to something that was last talked about several verses earlier, such as in Romans 12:1, which uses the word "therefore" to refer back to what was being talked about up until Romans 11:32? So, I am not denying that the...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Why would we define it that way? That's how preterists come to the conclusion that "the end of the age" Jesus talked about was the end of the supposed old covenant age. But, Jesus only spoke of "this age" and "the age to come" in relation to this temporal age that we are living in now when...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    In Matthew 23:36, Jesus indicated that "this generation" would be destroyed. Matthew 23:35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar. 36 Verily...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    What do you mean exactly? Don't be vague with me, please. If you're asking what that word refers back to, I already addressed this in detail with you. Do you not remember that?
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    That's good. That's how it should be. But, you also should not have too much confidence in James Strong.
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    That's what I thought, but it's good to have confirmation. The one thing I dislike the most about what many preterists believe is their false claim that the imaginary "old covenant age" ended in 70 AD. If there is such thing as an "old covenant age" then it ended instead around 33 AD or whatever...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Don't put your confidence in fallible men. Put your confidence in the Holy Spirit.
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand: ) 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: Mark 13:14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    Yeah, I agree. Taking a break from the soteriology debate and bringing the topic back to the parable of the wheat and tares for a minute, I think we have to be careful about what perspective we use to look at the parable. We know that plenty of children of the devil, which are defined in 1 John...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    Yes, one thing that I have pointed out many times is that both 1 Corinthians 15:54 and Revelation 21:4 quote from Isaiah 25:8, which shows that those verses have a direct connection, which Premils who see mortals living on the earth during the thousand years miss. Did you notice I made it clear...