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Which OSAS The doctrine as found by Calvin or the words once saved always saved, or as most people call it, eternal security. They are two different things…

Discipleship. Like spiritual growth. Is an ongoing spiritual journey of Gods people God makes us alive in him, this is the begining of our journey with the most important part being settled. Our eternal destination. It is the basis of our ability to not only continue to grow. But to continue to...

Convince each other of what? I actually never heard the term OSAS really until I came into a christian chat room. I also did not know many people felt it came from the fatalistic view of Calvinism. all the same, once a person is saved, they are always saved. It’s called eternal life, the seal...

YOUR THE ONE WHO SAID WE MUST CONTINUE IF WE WANT TO GET TO HEAVEN THATS NOT DISCIPLESHIP. THAT IS TRYING TO PERFECT YOURSELF IN THE FLESH you can not have discipleship without having new birth. All you have is people acting like they are christians, but have never met christ.

While OSAS is generally referred to the calvinist doctrine that teach perseverance of the saints. it is False theology. OSAS is also referred to a child of God. Who by their own free will have repented and come to the throne of grace as the tax collector. Where God begins a good work. And...

You can answer me, NO I will not refrain you have falsly accused me,, You can either address the scripture. Or I will continue..

Why don;t you talk about the word. I gave the word in my firs post in your thread. Can you adress it please.. I am not the one who went of on you my friend..

This is a polite way to say not to adress you. smh You do not even know my theology. You already admitted you hate OSAS because you think it is calvinist.

This is a Christian chat discussion room. we are allowed to discuss the word with anyone Why is it you REFUSE to look at John 3 with me? Why is it you REFUSE to acknowledge your anger is against calvinism, which I hate.. You have done like so many other people. And claim because I believe God...

You don;t believe what God says, if you did you would not belive in the same gospel GracePeace believes in, You would be against his gospel like the rest of us are. I am not here to affect you or change your mind, I am here to discuss the word.. Sadly. To many people want to push their views...

Amen,, For sanctification and discipleship NOT to keep saved.. That is a false gospel.

Here is the issue when you say we need to repent and believe in Jesus, thats great When you say we need to repent and believe in Jesus and thats just the start of us saving ourselves. Then we have a problem.. Becaue that just tells people to trust self Not God

I agree he is false John 3 is not calvinism. John 3 is being born again, and whoever is born again by CHOSING to look to the cross in faith. Will NEVER DIE.. and HAS ETERNAL LIFE

Salvation is not a win or lose thing, Gods people do nOt win nor do they lose. They are SAVED.

It is amazing that God says we WILL become a new creation in Christ. yet there are those who reject this notion. They still think THEY need to change themselves.

Lol You do not know us at all my friend. Your true self is being exposed though

This is not about OSAS, its about the promise of God Did God say you will never die and HAVE eternal life (eternal security) or did he not. Perseverance of the saints is a false doctrine. We do not persevere. God keeps us.. Calvinism is in error. why do people not want to discuss the word?

Oh so you are with her and think that we have to earn our salvation? lol. This is not about a licentious gospel or as some call easy or hyper grace, my friend, They are just as lost as a legalist. Please do not feed the legalist..

How did I know I would see this. Hiw did I know this is where you would go? From another thread Boom!!!! Thank you for showing me I was right. And by the way. Don’t accuse me of following doctrines of men, when you do that very thing yourself. If you do not want to discuss the word of God and...

He damned many in the galations church and called them fools.. These people were not children of God. I do nt know what that Guy thinks they were. Since when is a person who has a different gospel and Paul said to damn them, a child of God?