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So we need to earn our salvation by bearing our cross. This is no different than the other thread where someone says we must abide in christ. There are to many I’s in this equation. The pharisee says, I did this, I did that I I I.. and praised God and cursed the tax collector who says YOU…...

Theen you just proved my point, Yes I read your thread. And I understood everything you said. Eternal life is a one time event, Whether you believe in OSAS or not is not the question. I believe many people Hate OSAS because they hate calvinism. I do not know if this is your reason or not...

if this thread is about discipleship.why would the op say if we want to be in heaven, we must have this lifelong journey. Discipleship is christian growth, its not about getting to heaven

How far must one Go? Jesus gave us that answer 1. You must be born again 3 Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” 2. You must acknowledge you are Lost, without hope, dead. And your only Hope is God. 14...

Sadly, it comes from the same root that has kept men from God from the begining. Pride. The thought that we so so evil an innocent animal has to shed his blood and that is the ONLY way I can be redeemed is foolish, Stupid, It gets people angry (its why the pharisees crucified Christ) How dare...

Amen, The John 6 road of doing what we need to do to recieve the promises of God. That will will never hunger, never thirst. Never die, Live forever. have eternal life and have his assurance we WILL be raised as apposed to being DELIEVERED to him for judgment

Galations would be a good book for them to read. Especially the first part. About doing to the gospel of Christ. And begining in the spirit. But needing to perfect that in the flesh.

Caution needs to be engaged with listening to you now. This takes me by surprise. I would have never guessed you to were a worker for. Not a worker BECAUSE

Then why are you standing up for a Guy who teaches RELIGION and SELF RIGHTEOSNESS and not the word of God?

Wow, you have fallen dear sister (Can I even call you my sister? I fear now that is in question)

Wow you are on a rampage. Funny how they ARE posting verses relating to SANCTIFICATION. Which ABIDING in the VINE IS. Of course we are not posting verses about regeneration. This OP is about abiding in the vine, that has zero to do with regeneration. If you’re not regenerated already. You will...

WOW, so now it all comes together. You were not mad at me because I said something, you were mad because what I said hit you also.. Abiding in the vine is not what we do to be saved. It’s what we do to grow in Christ. There will be many babes in Christ who will not see much reward in heaven...

They can’t

Amen, Jesus said you MUST be born again, it is not an option

they would have to attach themselves to the vine. Of course, if you think you can attach yourself. You think you can unattached yourself. So what you have is power in self. Not God

I believe when we get to heaven, there will be people there we did not think would be there. And people we think wil be there. That will not be there.

As far as proverbs 2 goes. it is best to look back in the origional language. the word is tusiyya - by interpretation it means תּוּשִׁיָּה, תֻּשִׁיָּה Pr 3:21. †:—1. success, (good) results Is 28:29; ʿāśâ tûšiyyâ achieve success Jb 5:12; sugg. effective counsel 26:3;—2. circumspection...

Just remember this is spirit baptism not water.. God baptized us into the death of Christ, And he raised us to new life

You doing exactly what I said. You trying to get people to see it your way. I have only introduced a conundrum in your wisdom..

Why? John told us why 29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world! 30 This is He of whom I said, ‘After me comes a Man who [k]is preferred before me, for He was before me.’ 31 I did not know Him; but that He should be...