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I didn't say that's the end of the story. It's an ongoing spiritual battle for our souls. Calvinism does not see that. Are we not able to grieve, quench and resist the conviction and chastisement of the Spirit? I think you do not understand what the unbelieving Jews who Stephen rebuked were...

Can you address my points first? You avoided addressing any of my points in that post.

Paul said that to be absent from the body (bodily dead) is to be present with the Lord and he said being present with the Lord is much better than being in the body (2 Corinthians 5:6-8, Philippians 1:20-24). With that being the case, why do you believe that being bodily dead is worse than being...

Right. I didn't say otherwise. But, the Holy Spirit can be resisted (Acts 7:51). Do you not believe that regeneration precedes faith? Why did regeneration come after faith in the case of the disciples?

LOL. Great argument there. Very convincing. You acted like I agree with their entire interpretation of the Olivet Discourse, which I do not. Not even close. So, you felt the need to lie to make yourself look better, which is pathetic. Hello? Is anyone home in there? That's what I said! This is...

Of course! Did I say otherwise? No, I did not. You're not addressing what I believe, you are addressing what your straw man Arminian believes. God initiates everything. He has the gospel preached to people. He speaks to people's hearts through His Spirit. But, man is required to respond. Do you...

Of course. I agree. However, we are responsible to submit to the Holy Spirit rather than resist Him like the unbelieving Jews that Stephen rebuked. Acts 7:51 “You stiff-necked people! Your hearts and ears are still uncircumcised. You are just like your ancestors: You always resist the Holy...

LOL. At least you acknowledge it was a significant event. You have no explanation for why such a significant event was supposedly not prophesied in scripture. I'm not a Preterist. Are you so lacking in confidence in your own view that you have to be dishonest and mislabel me as a Preterist...

You are evading the point that we all will stand before the judgment seat of Christ to give an account of ourselves and that is what Matthew 25:31-46 is portraying. Why are you evading that point? So, you don't believe Jesus when He divides people into only 2 groups: those who are with Him and...

I'm not a follower of Arminius, either, but you called me an Arminian. You agree with doctrines taught by Calvin, so that makes you a Calvinist. It doesn't mean you are not a Christian and follower of Christ. Labels are just used to help give an idea of what people believe without having to...

That's right. So, do you want to have a huge debate about salvation here or should we just stick to end times here? I don't want to derail this thread with a Calvinist vs. Arminian debate. We debated that topic privately already and got nowhere. We'll have to just agree to disagree.

Yes, I was thinking of the other almost 3,000 people besides them who received the Spirit on the day of Pentecost and was not remembering at the time that the disciples had already previously received the Spirit before that. But, tell me, if all believers from all-time have received the...

You sound like a Calvinist. Because you are one. I don't want to continue this convo here, bro. We can talk about this more privately if you want. You know that these kinds of comments mean nothing to me just like these kinds of comments mean nothing to me if anyone else makes them. Calvinism...

He teaches that they are bodily asleep/dead. They are obviously no longer living their lives on the earth, so they are asleep in that sense. It does not mean their souls and spirits are also asleep. Scripture like Luke 16:19-31 and Revelation 6:9-11 make it quite clear that those who are...

These are speaking of the promise of eternal BODILY life that Jesus gave believers that we will receive when Jesus returns rather than being cast into the lake of fire, which is the second death. John 3:16 speaks of the future hope of the eternal life that we will be given when Jesus returns...

Again, same to you! Your arguments are WEAK! No, I'm not. You accomplish nothing by lying. Why not? Do you not know that we all will stand before the judgment seat of Christ to give an account of ourselves? 2 Corinthians 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that...

Those are talking about being bodily dead. Do you not differentiate between the body, soul and spirit? And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

I gave up on your nonsense, not on scripture. You are hilarious.

Right. Anyone not under the new covenant has not had their sins covered and forgiven by the blood of Christ and they are not saved.

They were not regenerated without the internal work of the Spirit. I should've been more clear of what I was talking about. We have a major misunderstanding here and are not talking about the same thing. I'm talking about the permanent indwelling of the Holy Spirit that was unprecedented before...