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@mailmandan, this is a bit of a Strawman. @Hobie said nothing about ‘flawlessly obeying.’ And I think the OP is about the goal, the central theme, as opposed to Plan B, when we fail to achieve the goal.

You betcha when hypocrisy is involved! Vitriol is not the way of Christ. When one denom calls down fire and brimstone on another denom, non-Christians dismiss our call to love as something we do not even truly believe in practice.

Saturday morning. Post #206. It's sad when bad witnesses have to resort to denying there is often more than one sense to a word meaning. Just yesterday in a meeting, the presentation was called "concrete proposals" but had nothing to do with concrete. It must be a mystical thing, right?

Untrue. Not a one says that. You are interpretting O' God to apply to the son when it applies to God's throne. It is the throne of God that the son sits on. Doesn't make him God any more than sitting in the directors chair makes someone a director.

When the captain orders the ship to where you are drowining and then the ensign pulls you from the water, who is your savior? A. Captain B. Ensign C. Both Captain and Ensign

I love your appeal to gnosticism. I already gave you relevant verses about the devil in Scripture. Ignoring them and doubling down on your nonsense is on you. I'm out of this conversation.

Yup. Is Hebrews 1 in your Bible? V5 5 For God never said to any angel what he said to Jesus: “You are my Son. Today I have become your Father. Proves Jesus was created or more precisely, adopted "today." And as I said: You are deliberatly confused OF and FROM to mean IS. It doesn't...

Absolutely not. God called Jesus his son in whom he is well pleased. My son, sitting in the drivers seat O’ Wrangler, does not make my son me.

Your whole take on this is whacked. Yes, there is evil within us but there is also in Scripture an actual Being called the devil or satan. Not sure why you are insisting the term only applies to an attribute of our condition rather than a separate Being but there it is.

There is a thread called "Question for JW's' that has turned into a relentless attack. There are many such threads where some in this community feel it appropriate to gang up on a particular denomination. (SDA's and others are also targets). My questions are: What kind of witness do you...

1st, I don't know if that is true. 2nd, it seems like you are picking on this denomination's beliefs. The reason seems IDOLATRY (of doctrine). 3rd, So what if a certain member of a certain denomination won't defend that denomination's beliefs? (I'm kind of glad I go to a non-denominational...

Seems you are confusing ethics with metaphysics. While you might prefer to focus on what you call 'the true battle within,' it does not chnge the fact that there is a devil in Scripture.

Nope. You are projecting again.

You don’t see how this is a contradiction? Jesus was sent by God, proving he aint.

And what it says is God sent the prophet Isaiah. You are trying make it say 1 = 2 = 3.

Isaiah is speaking for God, saying God sent him. You interpret this as God sent God and I and JW have a problem with English. Gotcha!

How in the world do you equate that to God sent God? Are you saying Isaiah is God now?

In no way does Isaiah 48 mean God sent God. Unbelievable!

1 does not equal 3 in any language. No re-write necessary.

This seems to be a sticking point for you. I wonder why is that?