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It is the mercy of God that we lose the pleasure of life so that we can turn more fully to Him. The lust and pleasures of this world are quickly fading. Even so Come Lord Jesus!

Cliff I cannot subscribe whatsoever to a scheme that makes a Christian a friendly enemy of God.

I think it is safe to assume that most Christians DO want to be in the bride of Christ. Maybe that is why so few will seek to avoid the gospel of the kingdom as you do.

Because there is no good unless God says it's good. God doesn't follow laws...The laws follow God. The fact that God doesn't change is what makes a law a law. He decides a planet will have gravity...and that becomes the law. He decides we can't eat from a certain tree and that becomes law...

The title of this thread is very ironic! ;)

You are practicing hiding behind verses to not listen to what I have said. Maybe others will get something from it.

Richard speaks death. Joh_6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

No one is being forced into the Jewish kingdom, nor the Jewish bride of Christ , nor the Jewish city of New Jerusalem.

Quote from William Booth (founder of the Salvation army) over 100 years ago "The chief danger of the 20th century will be: religion without the Holy Ghost, Christianity without Christ, forgiveness without repentance, salvation without regeneration, heaven without hell."

Death means separation. If we sin we breach fellowship with God. We can repent and turn back to God. We can sin sins that are not according to death. John states this. But all sins are one step closer to death if not outright death. Sins cause us to drop back. This means we are following Christ...

So you operate in 2 different natures and are a friend and alien to God. You know God in total ignorance to God. You operate in unbelief through faith. So you can have a really good time...enjoying the world AND the kingdom!!!! :wacko:

This answer is easy because nothing has changed ever concerning righteousness. A smile :) has always been a smile :) And a selfless act continues to be a selfless act. God has chosen to have mercy on us Christians...and given us a deposit to work with till He returns. In this way we become...

Haz claims to be sinless too but that is because he has manouvered himself behind the blood of Jesus so that when God looks at him he only sees the blood. It is justified as in JUST AS IF I'D never sinned! :) Kidron claims to not sin either because he says the law that would condemn him has...

The righteousness we produce comes from the righteousness of God in us...God works in us to produce a profit He calls fruit. We will NOT be judged according to the righteousness of God in us...but what this has produced in us. IN this way we will either be vessels of honour..or vessels of...

You have a right to discern as you wish. But purity through the Spirit is what scriptures teach..not impurity. Don't confuse purity with maturity. No one is saying that one must be mature as Jesus in order to be as pure as Jesus. One can be a new Christian and be totally pure....at least for...

You know him as much as I do!!! :) I don't think Whitestone only sees himself alone as a Christian here. Ask him yourself!!! He says he walks in the fulness of the Spirit through grace. I know what that is. I pray that he remain there. I am going back there myself...after some conditioning from...

It is a trade off...You can't start another point until somebody else responds... I do like the boxes that the quotes go in...much better than scrolling down 2 feet to see the response! :)

You are missing the upward calling that Whitestone is making. He is standing in the truth and declaring the spiritual reality of where Jesus actually is. I understand that it is hard to take. There are quite a few here who agree with the sinless walk...it is biblical. The bible states no other...

Amen! We can be righteous!!! Having received the divine nature that is already the righteousness of God in us let us now grow into righteousness in our characters...backfilling as it were the lack of maturity with the humbleness of Christ. 2Pe 1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto...

Why is it so hard to see that a brother be ahead of you? Love believes all things (are possible). You could be biting the very hand that seeks to pull you out of the mud. But we must first place our mudness on the altar of God. Whitestone has professed he walked many years in the mud...but God...