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Actually a priest of the RC rite has been given the power by holy Rome to magically trans-substantiate the wine and bread into the actual body and blood of Christ. The reasoning is that if you eat the mass every day you will always have Jesus in you....at least until it passes on through. So...

I am not in my "old nature". My old nature was crucified with Christ. I have a new nature as a new creation in Christ. But my soul is in process of salvation. I am not always in the immediate presence of God....rather I don't always perceive His direct presence. What indoctrinated ones cannot...

There are actually 4 gospels...Matthew Mark Luke and John. ;)

Wondering who is saved or how big you reward in heaven is...is futile. Making a doctrine from such a motivation like this...is deceitful. In a topic such as this we should rather be telling others of the wonderful experiences of power related to God's grace.

He can make even an axe head to float!!! :)

This is true! I believe the RC practice falls under the "vain repetitions" catagory. But even here the Holy Spirit is not out of the picture entirely. God frustrates every plan of man to organize Him out of the church! :)

Saved saved saved...like a Pavlov's dog conditioning....no man can "figure out" what God will say to him on that day. Pointless repetition of futility.

I agree with you! With Christ in our lives we can become overcomers just as He.... Rev_3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

We are not the ones rationalizing sin here!!!! LOL You are still looking for a victory and overcoming but in the next age. You want to be saved in the spirit and then skip right over to the redemption of the body...but entirely miss the race of faith to the winning over and transforming of the...

Did you justify Abraham? Do you expect me to justify him? Why can't you see that there is a real living God who does the justifying and no one else???? This is the reasoning of the self-justifiers here... (The sign says..."now hiring able bodied men") So a man reads the sign...figures he is...

Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the...

You want an opinion? I have no opinion...I have never met Abraham...have you? We have the bible record that GOD (the Creator)...justified him. No man did this.... Can you see that? Can you find me a place where anybody then justifies himself based on what another has done???? Your system is...

Here is an actual verse that shows the new nature... Gal 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. So watch carefully...

Actually you misunderstand...read carefully what Whitestone is saying. He is talking about a new life in the Spirit according to the power of God. Not a human scheme for covering up sins

The Romans 7 verses have been covered in this thread...Paul goes through the process of what it was like before being in Christ. Do you care to comment on my response? If you understand the bible you will see that I cover the verses with my statement.

God loved us so He gave us of His Spirit and empowered us to walk as His Son by grace through faith.

Are you from the peace corps? Humans can justify their actions through charity...but this is not the same as being in Christ. LOving God remains the first commandment.

Without Christ no man could uphold the law. Rom_3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

You admit that you're still stuck in your old nature like those in the OT. But we have a new covenant in Christ. So you claim the promises of the NT while still walking in your own strength...it just doesn't wash.

If dogs that claim to not sin are the ones returning to their vomit that would mean that they claimed victory over sin like every other non- Christian, right??? Where do you live where non-believers claim to have victory over sin?