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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Why do Premillennialists not believe that 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 and 2 Peter 3:10-13 refer to the same event?

    Except you are clearly wrong about that. My fellow Amills on here take me seriously as do the few open-minded Premills here. Whereas no one here takes you seriously at all. Not one single person. You're a lone wolf here ranting at the wind.
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Why do Premillennialists not believe that 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 and 2 Peter 3:10-13 refer to the same event?

    So, it's okay for you to make accusations against us without any explanation behind it? You don't think that is evil to make false accusations without backing them up? You are the one who needs help. Everyone here can see that.
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Why do Premillennialists not believe that 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 and 2 Peter 3:10-13 refer to the same event?

    Premills do nothing but make straw man arguments. They never address what we actually believe. It's pathetic.
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Why do Premillennialists not believe that 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 and 2 Peter 3:10-13 refer to the same event?

    I certainly am. And, yes, they are, too. And so are you and you don't even know it, which is incredibly sad.
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Why do Premillennialists not believe that 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 and 2 Peter 3:10-13 refer to the same event?

    How exactly do we teach that the church has replaced the Jews? You're the one making the accusation here, so explain what you mean by this.
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    The context of 1 Corinthians 15 in relation to the resurrection of the dead is clearly in relation to believers, so he was saying all of the dead in Christ will be resurrected at Christ's second coming. But, go ahead and think Paul was talking about the resurrection of unbelievers there, too, if...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    In order to try to refute Amil he has to come up with insane ideas like claiming that the souls of the dead in Christ are conscious but not alive (dead). It's impossible to take seriously. He can't refute Amil with scripture in a coherent way, so he has to come up with a convoluted theory that...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    Yes, so a rapture wouldn't necessarily have to occur if they were miraculously protected like that. Regardless, those saints who are alive at the time along with any who are dead at the time would need to be glorified (changed to put on bodily immortality) in order to live in the eternal new...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    Something different than what you're talking about, apparently. If you want to keep wasting time arguing about Isaiah 65:20, go ahead, but I'm not interested in going back and forth like this where neither of us understands what the other is saying.
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    If only you read a bit further and also looked at Psalm 2:8-9. After Revelation 19:15 John wrote this... Revelation 19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the birds flying in midair, “Come, gather together for the great supper of God, 18 so that you may...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    You are lying about me misrepresenting what you believe. You couldn't even give one example of that. You say that the soul of a bodily dead person is conscious, but is not alive (is dead). That's a fact. That's what you said. And you expect anyone to take that nonsense seriously? You don't live...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    No, I don't believe that. You are getting upset that I'm not addressing what you want to address, but you are not addressing what I want to address. So, I'm done with this.
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    The Third (Ezekiel's) Temple of Israel, Project 1534

    No, it does not. Where do you get that idea from? It says the church is the bride of Christ. Ephesians 5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    The Four Stages of Mankind's Redemption:

    What distinction between Jew and Gentile believers are you talking about that Paul supposedly made? He did just the opposite of that and made no distinction between them. You must be reading a different Bible than I am. Galatians 3:26 So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    Jesus Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, At This Time The Resurrection Of "All" Takes Place (Then Cometh The End)

    Nowhere does it teach that Jesus has to reign physically on this earth. The Premill position has been on the scrap heap for a long time already. You're trying to dig it out, but it can't be done. Premills have no understanding of Christ's kingdom. He has been reigning over all nations and all...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    Why do Premillennialists not believe that 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 and 2 Peter 3:10-13 refer to the same event?

    This question never gets answered. They accuse us of believing in replacement theology, but can never tell us who we claim is being replaced. Some will say that we Amills have the church replacing national Israel, but that isn't true. We include Israelite believers among God's people just as...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    You really need to stop pretending as if you know what I believe and have the authority to tell everyone what I believe. You are too ignorant to speak for me. I do not teach this. I believe we are spiritually dead in our sins before we become saved because scripture explicitly teaches that...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Why do Premillennialists not believe that 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 and 2 Peter 3:10-13 refer to the same event?

    Where does any of that say anything about anyone being replaced? We agree with scripture which says that being part of the kingdom of God has always been dependent on faith and not on one's nationality and that Jew and Gentile believers are all equally part of it as one body of Christ. No one is...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    Why do Premillennialists not believe that 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 and 2 Peter 3:10-13 refer to the same event?

    You have nothing of substance and nothing more than lies to offer. You're all hot air. No one takes you seriously even a tiny bit. Remember that.
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    Okay, it's time to put your money where your mouth is. Show me exactly how you interpret 2 Peter 3:10-12 with as much detail as possible. Why do you say that 2 Peter 3:10-12 cannot be referring to the entire planet being literally engulfed in flames? Keep in mind, as I've said many times, I...