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I also said mainly and "prior to that, nobody taught faith alone you say?" was in the form of a question (with a bit of sarcasm) so I was not trying to change your words. You change the word of God by perverting the gospel.

Thank you! :) There is nothing wrong about faith (rightly understood) in Christ alone. The infallible truth in regards to salvation. What about you? Does the Roman Catholic church explain it for you?

Not if he teaches baptismal regeneration/saved by water baptism/immersed or condemned. Who was primarily responsible for copying and preserving the writings of the church fathers and were their writings infallible?

Thank you. So Martin Luther was not the first person to use the words "faith alone." Case closed.

I was simply making the point that Basil said "faith alone" and others said "faith alone" before Martin Luther. Now if Basil actually taught otherwise and contradicted himself, then that's on him. Ultimately, scripture is our source of infallible truth and not fallible writings from fallible men.

Did he not say faith alone? How many ways can you interpret - "Again, they said that he who adhered to faith alone was cursed, but he shows that he who adhered to faith alone, is blessed." Martin Luther was not the first person to mention faith alone. Saved by grace through faith, not works...

I don't support beliefs that promote transubstantiation or salvation by works, which contradict faith alone.

How does post #853 answer, "if you believe that man is saved by faith AND WORKS, then there must be a set amount of works that must be accomplished in order to be saved." You have not listed a set amount of works.

In many cases, it's not hard to figure out when someone has misinterpreted Scripture. Especially when it comes to someone perverting the gospel. The Holy Spirit does not leave believers without discernment. (1 Corinthians 2:11-14)

So faith alone mainly began with Martin Luther in the 1500's and prior to that, nobody taught faith alone you say? Here are some quotes of men teaching faith alone prior to the 1500's. Basil: "This is the true and perfect glorying in God, when a man is not lifted up on account of his own...

I knew it! You do attend the church of Christ. That explains your absolute obsession with water baptism! I at one time had temporarily attended the so called church of Christ several years ago and it seemed like water baptism was about the only thing the preacher at the church talked about. When...

Did I strike a nerve? Do you attend the church of Christ? The 5 step plan of salvation presented by the church of Christ has originated with men, namely THOMAS CAMPBELL, ALEXANDER CAMPBELL, WALTER SCOTT, and BARTON W. STONE. (Hence, the term, Campbellites). Did these men actually "restore" the...

You continue to isolate one part of your pet Bible verses, build doctrine on them, then ignore the rest. That’s not keeping it simple. That’s called flawed hermeneutics. John 3:15,16,16: Acts 10:43; 16:31; Romans 1:16; 3:24-28; 4:5-6; 5:1; Ephesians 2:8,9 etc.. could be understood by most 10...

These passages of scripture have already been explained to you numerous times, but unfortunately, you just don't have eyes to see or ears to hear. Good example above about how you isolate one part of one verse (that tells you what your itching ears want to hear) then ignore the rest. In 1...

Not at all. Believers confess with their mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in their heart that God has raised Him from the dead. There is your IF. "Nominal" Christians/make believers at best give "lip service" confession with their mouth and merely believe in their head (and not in their...

So you believe that believers are clueless about who has misinterpreted Scripture? It's not about giving only one person (or set of persons in one particular orginization) authority to interpret Scripture. (1 Corinthians 2:11-14)

Again, your faulty, biased interpretation which has already been refuted numerous times. We are saved through faith, not works. (Ephesians 2:8,9) Acts 26:18 - to open their eyes, in order to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, that they may receive forgiveness...

When you beat around the bush and double speak, it's a little hard for me to figure out what you believe. Post #853?

It's works-salvationists that must be watched. IF can be a condition or a confirmation, depending on the context. Keep in mind that "lip service" confession from a heart that does not truly believe, but instead, trusts in works for salvation, does not count.

I proved otherwise and you obviously swallowed the lie of salvation by water baptism.