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  1. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Not at all. We obey the gospel by choosing to believe the gospel. This act of obedience saves. Still faith (rightly understood) in Christ alone. Now that's not to be confused with multiple acts of obedience/works which "follow" believing the gospel.
  2. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    I often hear Campbellites use the example of Naaman being cleansed from leprosy while dipping in water as an example of having sins cleansed by water during baptism.
  3. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    It's not about must confess, but will confess. The word of faith is in our mouth and in our heart - TOGETHER (Romans 10:8) even if the person cannot verbally speak (is moot). It's not a set amount, but a set recognition in our heart that Jesus is Lord, so the confession is an expression of faith...
  4. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Be very careful about so called credentials. Understanding scripture is not about human logic. (1 Corinthians 2:11-14)
  5. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    I've heard people misinterpret Romans 10:9,10 in such a way before which means we can believe unto righteousness today, but are still lost until we confess Christ, which may be next week and then we are finally saved next week, but that is not what Paul is talking about here. Also, someone who...
  6. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Acts 15:9 and made no distinction between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. What do we obey in order to have our souls/hearts purified? *We obey the gospel by choosing to believe the gospel.* Romans 10:16 - But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah says, “Lord, who has...
  7. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Great sales pitch for Roman Catholics, but it does not work on me and I'm a former Roman Catholic. Not bizarre at all. If you believe that man is saved by faith AND WORKS, then there must be a set amount of works that must be accomplished in order to be saved. If not, why not? How in the world...
  8. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Of course, because this confession is an expression of faith from the heart (and not a work for salvation). Confessing with our mouth that Jesus is Lord and believing in our heart that God raised Him from the dead (Romans 10:9,10) are not two separate steps to salvation but are chronologically...
  9. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    How did I finally get it? I knew all along that's what you were teaching, along with a few others on this thread. Now you just need to figure out how many works you must accomplish and "add" as a supplement to Christ's finished work of redemption in order to "help" Christ save you. Let me know...
  10. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    That's just your biased interpretation of Romans 6:3-18 in order to promote salvation by water baptism. You continue to confuse the picture (water baptism) with the reality (Spirit baptism). Now in regards to Romans 6:16, works-salvationists typically ignore "servants of obedience unto...
  11. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    You have a chance now to clear up any confusion here. Do you believe that man saved by faith AND WORKS? - YES or NO.
  12. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Joe Mizzi (who writes these articles on that site) is a former Roman Catholic and he is quoting doctrine straight out of the Roman Catholic church.
  13. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Help me out here. o_O So which is it? Do you believe that man is saved by grace through faith, not works, OR through faith and works?
  14. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Of course God did not say that we are saved by works. You just contradicted yourself again. You said God did not say that we are saved by works, then you turn around and say God said what we must do to be saved and that list INCLUDES works. So which is it? You can't have it both ways...
  15. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    You erroneously interpret all of those scriptures that you cited above to teach that man is saved by works. You could not make it any clearer that you teach salvation by works. Your argument about being saved by grace "after accomplishing a work that God commands you to do" sounds similar to...
  16. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    God did not say that we are saved "by" works. We are saved by grace through faith, not works. (Ephesians 2:8,9) You can cite scripture all day long and call it God's list, but if your interpretation of this list of scriptures is incorrect and the end result is salvation by works, then it becomes...
  17. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    In James 2:26, the comparison of the human spirit and faith converge around their modes of operation. The spirit (Greek pneuma) may also be translated "breath." As a breathless body exhibits no indication of life, so fruitless faith exhibits no indication of life. The source of the life in faith...
  18. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    You just contradicted yourself. Your list included works.
  19. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    That salvation is by grace through faith and is not by works (Ephesians 2:8,9) is not hard to understand. It’s just hard for works-salvationists to ACCEPT. It’s a shame that human pride will not allow works-salvationists to trust in Jesus Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of their salvation...
  20. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    In James 2:14, we read of one who says/claims he has faith, but he has no resulting evidential works (to substantiate his claim). That is not genuine faith, but a bare profession of faith. So when James asks, "Can that faith save him?" he is saying nothing against genuine faith, but only against...