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  1. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Galatians 3:26 - For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus (Period.) *Not through faith and water baptism. Also read John 1:12 - But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name. *Received Him, given the right to...
  2. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    In regards to "water" in John 3:5, take note that Jesus mentions "living water" in John 4:10, 14; 7:37-39 and *connects it with receiving everlasting life.* John 4:14 - but whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him will never thirst. But the water that I shall give him will become in him...
  3. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Noah had already "found grace" (Genesis 6:8) was "a preacher of righteousness" (2 Peter 2:5) and "walked with God" BEFORE he built the ark. His obedience was a demonstration of his faith and not the origin of it and saved him and his family (physically) from drowning (Hebrews 11:7). If being...
  4. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Amen! The apostle Paul explains why people don’t believe the gospel: 2 Corinthians 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: 4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image...
  5. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Amen! The gospel is the "good news" of the death, burial and resurrection of Christ (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) and is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that BELIEVES.. (Romans 1:16). To "believe" the gospel is to trust in the death, burial and resurrection of Christ as the ALL-sufficient...
  6. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Belief is not just another work in a series of works in a quest to obtain salvation by works. Through believing, we are trusting in "Another's work," (Christ's finished work of redemption - Romans 3:24-28). John 6:29 is simply a play on words by Jesus when he said, "This is the work (singular)...
  7. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    This is not a game and only those who are saved (and not lost) are going to heaven. Salvation is not probation. In Luke 8:12, notice “believe and be saved.” In John 3:16, we read that those who “believe in Him” shall not perish, but have eternal life. You do understand that eternal life for...
  8. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    That accusation is absolutely false, but I understand that you must be thoroughly indoctrinated and confused. We have here a command from Jesus to go and make disciples of all nations and baptize them. However, it does not say here that baptism is absolutely necessary for salvation. The same...
  9. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    I have not rejected Christ’s words and salvation is not a process of works righteousness. Salvation is by grace through faith and is not by works. (Ephesians 2:8,9) To believe anything else is to miss salvation. I believe in/have faith in/trust in Jesus Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of...
  10. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Mark 16:16 - He who believes and is baptized will be saved (general cases without making a qualification for the unusual case of someone who believes but is not baptized) but he who does not believe will be condemned. If water baptism is absolutely required for salvation, then why did Jesus not...
  11. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Don’t buy into the flawed logic that man is saved by “these” works (good works) and just not “those” works (works of the law). Paul and James are both referring to works which cannot be dissected from the moral aspect of the law. (James 2:15-16; Deuteronomy 6:5; Leviticus 19:18; Matthew...
  12. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Does that guy merely believe “mental assent” in the existence of Christ or does he believe in/have faith in/trust in/reliance in Jesus Christ for salvation? Obviously not the latter if there is no change in that person at all. Those who believe in Christ/believe the gospel have received the Holy...
  13. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    It's not the mechanical act of being water baptized that saves us. We are saved the moment that we believe the gospel/place our faith in Jesus Christ for salvation prior to receiving water baptism.
  14. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    If one makes a heart decision to become a disciple of Christ, then why would they refuse to be water baptized? I don’t reject Christ’s words (John 3:15,16,18; 6:40,47; 11:25,26) and I could not wait to get water baptized after my conversion, upon receiving Christ through faith and becoming...
  15. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Luke 7:29 - When all the people and the tax collectors heard this, they justified God/acknowledged God's justice, (signified by) having been baptized with the baptism of John. 30 But the Pharisees and the lawyers rejected God's purpose for themselves, (signified by) not having been baptized by...
  16. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    So what are we disagreeing about? o_O
  17. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Those verses are self explanatory. We are saved through belief/faith "apart from additions or modifications." Works-salvationists will resort to eisegesis of those verses and try to "shoe horn" works "into" salvation through belief/faith. Example below from a statement made by a...
  18. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    No need for sarcasm. I have come across numerous believers over the years who properly harmonize scripture with scripture before reaching their conclusion on doctrine. Never said I was the only one who did. If you are listening to teachers who teach salvation by faith (their version of faith)...
  19. mailmandan

    Working Out Your Salvation

    In Philippians 2:12, we notice that Paul said to "work out" your own salvation and not "work for" your salvation. Salvation by works is not being taught here. The idea of "working out" your salvation is to progress to completion in spiritual growth and maturity in the process of ongoing...