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  1. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    More slander. I already previously explained those scriptures to you (which do not support your perverted water gospel of immersed in water or condemned) but you just don't have eyes to see or ears to hear and there is a reason for that.
  2. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Typical slanderous remark. I never said those scriptures were heretical or that Christ is a heretic. It’s your misinterpretation of those verses which result in your perverted water gospel (immersed in H20 or condemned) that is heretical. I promote the gospel of Christ which is the power of God...
  3. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Amen! Those who promote such heresy in this thread are not really listening. They are just waiting for their next chance to speak. :rolleyes:
  4. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    EISEGESIS is actually a better nickname for YOU. A better nickname for me would be HERMENEUTICS, since I properly harmonize Scripture with Scripture before reaching my conclusion on doctrine. All you do is isolate your pet verses on baptism, build doctrine on them, then try to force the rest of...
  5. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Amen! Those who gladly received His word (through repentance/faith) were “afterwards” baptized and about 3,000 souls were added that day. (Acts 2:41) *Repentance and faith are two sides to the same coin. (Acts 20:21) In Acts 4:4, we read - However, many of those who heard the word believed; and...
  6. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    What did Simon do that the Samaritans also did? Simon the sorcerer in Samaria is said to have “believed and was baptized” at the preaching of Philip (Acts 8:13) but later, when Simon offers the apostles money to have their ability to impart the Holy Spirit (verses 18–19), he is rebuked by Peter...
  7. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Simon was a false conversion, as I already explained in post #424 (if you even bothered to read it). Why is it important that it’s an “individual” and not a group of individuals? Multiple Gentiles were baptized with the Holy Spirit in (Acts 10:43-47; 11:16-18)
  8. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Straw man argument. I see that you continue to ignore my questions and the heart of my posts and are only interested in promoting your biased agenda.
  9. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Now go back and read post #402. You are building your doctrine on one half of one verse here. What about Mark 16:16(b)? Who is said to be condemned? Those who are not baptized or those who do not believe? What happened to baptism in John 3:15,16,18, 5:24; 6:29,40,47; 11:25,26? John 3:18 -...
  10. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Do you define "Spirit baptism" as merely receiving "spiritual gifts" (1 Corinthians 12) in addition to receiving the gift of the Holy Spirit? (Acts 10:43-47) That might explain your misunderstanding. *There is only ONE baptism that places us into the body of Christ and that is SPIRIT baptism...
  11. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    1 Corinthians 12:13 - For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free—and have all been made to drink into one Spirit. Laying on of hands by the apostles in order to receive the Holy Spirit was the exception (Acts 8:16-19; 19:1-6) not the rule...
  12. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Nobody is saying that water baptism is not important, but to say that water baptism is absolutely necessary for salvation (immersed or condemned) is going beyond what Scripture teaches. *Notice in Acts 16:31, the answer to the question from Acts 16:30, "what must I do to be saved" is "Believe in...
  13. mailmandan

    Except a man be born of WATER and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

    Amen! The word "water" is used in Scripture as an emblem of the Word of God, and in such it is associated with cleansing or washing. (John 15:3; Ephesians 5:26)
  14. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    I believe the number of "nominal" Christians/make believers from various false religions and cults who have been water baptized (but don't truly believe the gospel) and will be rejected will exceed the number of genuine Christians/genuine believers who were unable to receive water baptism after...
  15. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Amen! It logically follows that we get water baptized after we believe the gospel and obtain salvation, but if someone is on their death bed and cannot get baptized before death, they will still be saved because they BELIEVED (John 3:18; Acts 10:43; Romans 1:16) which is in harmony with Mark...
  16. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    I believed and confessed Jesus with all my heart several years ago on a Saturday night, but was unable to receive water baptism until Sunday morning, yet was still saved on Saturday night prior to receiving water baptism on Sunday morning. Confessing with our mouth that Jesus is Lord and...
  17. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    In Acts 2:38, "for the remission of sins" does not refer back to both clauses, "you all repent" and "each one of you be baptized," but refers only to the first. Peter is saying "repent unto the remission of your sins," the same as in Acts 3:19. The clause "each one of you be baptized" is...
  18. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Your argument doesn't prove that water baptism is necessary for salvation, but it shows that you confuse the picture (water baptism) with the reality (Spirit baptism). Again, as Greek scholar AT Robertson explains - "A symbol is not the reality, but the picture of the reality." Romans 6:4...
  19. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Hebrews 10:22 (NASB) - let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water. *Notice the order. Reference to this verse as proving regeneration, or the new birth, by water baptism ignores the...
  20. mailmandan

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    In Romans 6:4, the phrase "buried with Him through baptism," seems to support the idea that baptism is the instrumental cause of justification. However, even here baptism could be understood as the sign of justification. It is not unusual in Scripture to call the reality by the name of its sign...