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Oh please. How long have you been critical of all church systems, and mine in particular as works based self righteous Babylonian counterfeit Christian? Like, forever? Yet not once do you offer any substantial reason for that criticism apart from general condemnation In fact, you have promoted...

@mjrhealth You know mate, I don't care that you are an independent Christ loving Christian who is serving Christ in your community by loving others and contributing to their well being and doing what you can in your sphere of influence to alleviate the suffering of others. That is good religion...

@mjrhealth but at least you now agree that salvation is not unconditional. Turning back to the Father is a condition. On that note, so also is forsaking the old life.. It's sin... It's worldliness... It's selfishness. Because you cannot turn back to the Father without turning away from those...

Yes, repentance is surrender and/or submission the Father through Christ...a forsaking of self will and allowing God's spirit to work in and through us for His purposes. Do we know God's purpose? His final plan? Yes. That we may be fully sanctified and ultimately glorified in Him. How He...

You need to read my posts properly. You half read them, scan them quickly, fail to understand where I'm coming from and what I'm saying, jump to a conclusion and criticise me then agree with what I was actually saying all along. SMH. wondering now if you've done that with others here.

KJV Philippians 2 A Christian's Obligations 12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. KJV 2 Peter 1 3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that...

Where in scripture does it say that we must have a perfect and correct understanding of the Godhead in order to be ultimately saved? I don't agree with the JW concepts either. But God judges them according to righteous judgement... God will judge them according to stuff I know nothing about...

@Joseph77 2000 years ago Jesus gave His life for all mankind. All men and women, past, present, and future, were at that time, justified by the blood of the Lamb. You, me, even Jehovah Witnesses. Now of course that doesn't necessarily mean everyone goes to heaven, or the new Earth because we...

You are skewing the discussion in a direction where it fits with your angst against churches. No one was promoting the idea that works contribute in any way toward our justification. No one.That is a straw man. The discussion was whether or not or salvation is conditional or unconditional. You...

Well said. My perspective exactly. Even less do churches have the right to disfellowship anyone or refuse membership to anyone because they don't dare attempt to offer a definition of the Godhead as a dogma to be accepted.

Of course. Which makes repentance a condition of salvation. It is self delusion, and at great danger of eternal loss, that anyone promotes any idea of unconditional salvation. Such a concept exists only in the mind.

I expected a response like that. So you disagree that we need to repent as a condition of salvation?

Sorry mate, but you've no idea what I'm talking about, and you're personal animosity against any established church is coloring your whole sense of biblical truth. Even Jesus said, "repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand'. Now, try and convince me that salvation is offered to anyone who...

Though salvation is most assuredly conditional, (God's love is unconditional... Apocalyptic prophecy is unconditional... Most other prophecy is conditional... God's promises are conditional) I would hesitate to call salvation a reward. Though conditional, salvational isn't something we earn. But...

Standard response, and no more valid now than when it was first invented. Your entire defense is based on the assumption that the church that became headquartered in Rome during the fall of the empire was the same church that the apostles were the foundation of. To validate such a claim however...

WWUTT

God can raise communities of true believers from the rocks if He so chooses. Attempting to claim only one line of faith is the one God established is an exercise in futility when faced with God's omnipotence. If the original line goes astray, which it did, then God can, and did, use other means...

Jesus told the apostles that the holy Spirit would teach them all things. Yet you disagree. You didn't answer my questions. A. On whose interpretation are you relying that only the apostles were taught by God? B. Why do you believe none can be taught of God today? Keep in mind the...

Not mine.

I'm glad you liked Paul's post MJR. I did too. In fact, I would imagine there would be very few Christians who would suggest that their works are what saves them, oh, except maybe for Yeheren and his fellow Catholics although even they would be reluctant I imagine to claim their works alone are...