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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Which Millennium is better? Amil's or Premil's proposed millennium?

    They can't both be biblical. How are you coming up with that nonsense? That's like saying premil and amil are both biblical.
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Which Millennium is better? Amil's or Premil's proposed millennium?

    Agree. Also, I'm still waiting for a premil to explain to me the logistics of a number of people "as the sand of the sea" from around the world ("the four quarters of the earth") all traveling to Jerusalem at the same time to attack the people in the earthly city of Jerusalem. How could that...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Which Millennium is better? Amil's or Premil's proposed millennium?

    Do you believe that God, since the beginning of time, has never ruled the world? Or, at least, never ruled the world at any time after Adam and Eve sinned? LOL. I fully acknowledge (nothing to "admit") that fact. So what? The thousand years isn't about removing all rebellion from the earth...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Which Millennium is better? Amil's or Premil's proposed millennium?

    I have said that I believe that passage relates to Satan's little season many times, as have other amils. They are among those described in Revelation 20:8, but it isn't just them being described there. The ones described there number "as the sand of the sea". That certainly includes more than...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Which Millennium is better? Amil's or Premil's proposed millennium?

    It is future tense as of the time it was written, not future tense as of the time of the second coming. If you read it without bias, it's clearly something that will happen at the second coming. And, it lines up with Matthew 25:31-46 which also has unbelievers experiencing "everlasting...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Which Millennium is better? Amil's or Premil's proposed millennium?

    Amil does not deny that the thousand years is an actual period of time with a beginning and ending if that's what you mean. It denies that it's a literal one thousand years and is instead symbolic of the New Testament era. The word "thousand" is used figuratively elsewhere in scripture such as...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Which Millennium is better? Amil's or Premil's proposed millennium?

    LOL. Is this how we are supposed to determine the truth about Revelation 20? If you think premil makes more sense by looking at the thousand years from the perspective you're describing, then do you also think premil makes more sense when you consider that you believe that a number of people "as...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    The Future Great Tribulation Is 3.5 Years Long, The Beast And Two Witnesses Will Be On This Earth In Power Until The End

    You're not differentiating between knowing He is coming and being ready for it and knowing the exact day or hour that He will come. Matthew 24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. 43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    The Future Great Tribulation Is 3.5 Years Long, The Beast And Two Witnesses Will Be On This Earth In Power Until The End

    But, Jesus said in John 5:28-29 that the hour (singular) is coming when all of the dead will be resurrected with some resurrected to (eternal) life (eternal life) and the rest to (eternal) damnation. In your view, there are two completely separate hours (plural) coming when the dead will be...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    The Future Great Tribulation Is 3.5 Years Long, The Beast And Two Witnesses Will Be On This Earth In Power Until The End

    Revelation 20:11-15 clearly describes the dead being judged, so there's no reason to think that a reference to "the time of the dead, that they should be judged" (Rev 11:18) would be referring to any other judgment than the one described in Rev 20:11-15. The dead will not be judged at two...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    The Future Great Tribulation Is 3.5 Years Long, The Beast And Two Witnesses Will Be On This Earth In Power Until The End

    You are 100% correct about that. I've never seen someone mix dispensationlism and amillennialism together the way he does until I saw his posts. The only beliefs he seems to share with other amils is that Jesus reigns now, will destroy all of His enemies when He returns, and there won't be a...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    Do you have something against symbolism? Is it somehow offensive to you? The beast is said to have seven heads and ten horns. Are those seven literal heads and ten literal horns? No, right? So, why do "walls, foundations, gates, precious stones" have to be literal? The church is symbolically...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Revelation 2:10 ....and you will have tribulation 10 days...

    Maybe that's what he literally saw in his vision, but what he saw symbolically represents things in reality rather than being reality themselves. I can't imagine that you are saying that you think the woman is actually a literal woman rather than symbolically representing something besides an...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    You, too. I hope you feel better by tomorrow, at least.
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    In your view, this judging occurs when Jesus returns, right? Look at Matthew 25:31-46. Does that look like a description of ruling that goes on for a thousand years or is it instead a case of judging people in terms of handing out eternal rewards or punishments? The new earth is eternal. It...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    Revelation 2:10 ....and you will have tribulation 10 days...

    You're not understanding me. I don't use a symbolic hermeneutic. I interpret any given verse or passage based on the context and on making sure my interpretation doesn't contradict any other scripture. My doctrine is actually primarily based on literal, straightforward scripture. But, the book...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    the three woes

    Total nonsense. You have the third woe beginning before the first woe. LOL. This can't be taken seriously. Revelation 11:14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly. As can be clearly seen here, the third woe occurs after the second woe is past. Not before the first...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    How did you come to that conclusion? I see no basis for that. It will be located on the new earth but we are part of the heavenly Jerusalem even now (see Hebrews 12:22). The New Jerusalem is "the bride, the Lamb's wife" (Rev 21:9). Christ has no other bride besides the church. The souls of the...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    Thanks, bro! It seemed like I was gone longer than a month. I've been following the discussions on here and there's been a few times where I would have loved to be able to respond, but couldn't.