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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Revelation 2:10 ....and you will have tribulation 10 days...

    Why? I don't believe that is wise. There are more types of text in the Bible than just literal. Some scripture is literal, some is symbolic (figurative, metaphorical, etc.), some is poetic, some hyperbolic, some Apocalyptic, etc. It makes no sense to have a default hermeneutics to take the Bible...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Silence in heaven - Revelation

    Jesus returns after the 6th seal (compare Rev 6:12-17 to Matthew 24:29-31), so I believe the reason for the silence in heaven at the 7th seal is because no one is there at that point. Jesus, His angels and the souls of the dead in Christ will have descended from heaven at that point. The souls...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Revelation 2:10 ....and you will have tribulation 10 days...

    Revelation 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. So, do you think this verse is saying that the ten horns receive power as kings for literally only one hour (60 minutes) with the beast?
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    Where does it says that this judging of the twelve tribes of Israel would go on for a long time, such as a thousand years? The judgment is described in Matthew 25:31-46. Do you think that's an event that will go on for a thousand years? The book of Revelation itself says the holy city is new...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    It's what you imply when you try to apply 2nd Timothy 2:18 to us. Stop doing that, liar. Yes, we do. Are you just completely dense or are you a liar? Which is it? I assume you're just lying because I can't imagine someone being that dense. We believe that literally all of the dead in Christ...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    No doubt about it. You have no ability to back up your false claim. Tell me, how many hours are coming when all of the dead will be resurrected? John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    Take a Bible class and a class on integrity and perhaps that will help. Paul said there is an order to the bodily resurrections of the dead, but you completely ignore that. In your view there is no order to the resurrections of the dead because you see only one resurrection. But, Paul very...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    Are you brain dead? You know that when you say that you are making it as if we believe that everyone has already had part in the first resurrection in the past, which is NOT what we believe. You are being deceptive in how you word things. Yes, Jesus's bodily resurrection obviously happened in...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    I have nothing to apologize for, you evil liar. You know you are trying to make people think that amils believe the bodily resurrection of the dead in Christ is past. That's why you falsely apply 2 Timothy 2:18 to us. But, we do NOT believe that. So, stop lying about that. You need to apologize...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    In which resurrection? I do believe what you described will happen when Jesus comes again in the future.
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    Exactly. So, how many first resurrections from the dead are there in scripture? Just one in my view. Two in yours. You need to take a Bible class and learn how to interpret it. You also need to take a class on integrity so you learn that lying, which you do about what amils believe, is a sin...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    Right. Not all amils believe that Christ's resurrection itself is the first resurrection and that having part in the first resurrection means spiritually have part in Christ's resurrection, but some of us do. Either way, all amils agree that the way we have part in the first resurrection is by...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    You falsely represent what we claim, liar. You try to make it as if we claim the bodily resurrection of the dead in Christ happened in the past already and we do NOT claim that. The bodily resurrection of the dead in Christ will occur in the FUTURE when Jesus returns.
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    Yes. That means He was the first to rise from the dead unto bodily immortality, thereby ensuring that when He comes again, the dead in Christ will be bodily resurrected unto immortality as well. So, this is why some amils, like myself, see Christ's resurrection as the first resurrection and see...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    You only tell part of the story. You act as if we say that the first resurrection only relates to Jesus and that's it. Not so. We believe that His resurrection was the first bodily resurrection from the dead because scripture explicitly teaches that. Acts 26:23 That Christ should suffer, and...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    Thanks for providing some sanity to this thread from the premil perspective, David. I appreciate your honesty which is in stark contrast to the dishonesty of Stewardofthemystery who wickedly and deceptively tries to make people think we claim that the bodily resurrection of the dead in Christ...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    Scripture teaches that Christ's resurrection was the first resurrection. We all agree that is past, but this does NOT mean we are saying that everyone who will have part in the first resurrection (Christ's resurrection) already had part in it in the past. Also, you believe that the first...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    Premils are constantly trying to make it as if amils are full preterists and deny the future bodily resurrection of the dead in Christ. They can't support their own doctrine with scripture, so all they can do is misrepresent ours. It's ridiculous.
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    He was deceptively acting as if I deny the bodily resurrection of the dead in Christ. I'm tired of all the constant premil misrepresentations of amil on this forum. Disagree all you want, but stop misrepresenting our view. I can only conclude that it's on purpose at this point because there's no...