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Revelation 3:10 is perfectly clear, as is John 17:15, that we don't need to be taken off of the earth in order to be protected from evil and to endure trials and tribulations. Many Christians from the past almost 2,000 years have proven that to be true. You are basically saying that it's a...

What are you talking about? That verse refers to the birth of Christ and His ascension. You apparently didn't even read the verse. You are not able to make a coherent, convincing argument to support your view and that's our fault? Unbelievable.

I don't need a lesson about context from someone who believes in pre-trib, that's for sure. Pre-tribs take scripture out of context constantly. That doesn't matter. The concept is the same for us. We don't need to be taken off of the earth in order to be protected from evil and from trials...

What do you mean? You think he was talking about a literal spiritual house built with literal stones with Jesus literally as its cornerstone? You are trying to. And you are failing because scripture is the truth and your beliefs are a lie. That's a funny way of determining the truth. You are...

What do you believe "the Great Tribulation" is exactly and what does it entail?

Show me any scripture which says we need to be taken off of the earth in order to be kept safe from Satan. You won't find it. You are directly contradicting what Jesus prayed for. John 17:15 My prayer is not that you take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one. Jesus...

You truly have no idea of what you're talking about, as you prove over and over again. Please ask God for wisdom (James 1:5-7).

Do you understand that I did NOT say that at all? I'm talking about the pre-trib rapture doctrine and not about the rapture itself. And you know it. You're acting dumb in order to try to misrepresent what I said.

Clearly, pretrib is based on many assumptions and not on clear scripture. They read a lot of things into Daniel 9 that are simply not there.

Where is this taught in scripture? Paul wrote about our bodies being changed as being a mystery that he revealed, but I don't see where he said that about the rapture of the church.

That's what I'm saying. You obviously misunderstood what I was saying. Paul was revealing a mystery there which is that the relationship between Christ and the church is just like the relationship between a husband and wife and he was clearly indicating that Christ is our husband in a spiritual...

That is talking about the day Christ comes again, though. And He is only coming once. What "indignation" is that talking about? The wrath of Christ that will occur on the day we are caught up to Him: 1 Thessalonians 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief...

Agree. This passage describes them perfectly: 1 Corinthians 3:1 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. 2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able. 3...

Why do you read Matthew 27:51-53 at all? Didn't you say you believe it's fiction and didn't actually happen?

Straw Man King strikes again. You see that as the first resurrection, not us, so we don't see that as anything but what it says. It will happen instantly. But, according to Paul in 1 Corinthians 15:22-23 that is not the first bodily resurrection unto immortality in order, but instead is the...

Another weak response from you. So, is pre-trib dispensationalism also possibly true because "with God all things are possible"?

There is no such thing as "the Gentile church". You are making things up to make scripture say what you want it to say. There is one church of Jesus Christ and it consists of both Jew and Gentile believers. There is neither Jew nor Gentile and we are all one in Christ Jesus (Galatians 3:26-29).

Are you trying to say there are two gospels? There is only one gospel. One way for anyone, Jew or Gentile, to be saved. Christian Jews are NOT required to be circumcised. Where are you getting that from?

You're just trying to distract from the fact that Peter described the "holy nation" and "royal priesthood" he was talking about as a spiritual house with Jesus Christ as its cornerstone which is an obvious description of the church. Anything that is applied to Jewish Christians applies to...

We are not contradicting anything, Straw Man King. It's not completely in the past, so stop saying that nonsense. Yes, it started with His resurrection, but it's not past because people have been having part in His resurrection spiritually ever since then up until now and until He comes again...