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  1. Wrangler

    KJV vs. other translations

    The KJV is the most important book ever written in the English language. Having said that, it's time in the sun has come in gone. Not only is it the most inaccurate translation available in English today, KJV-only-ism kept me from reading Scripture for decades. If this was the only translation...
  2. Wrangler

    Revelation of Jesus Christ

    The Father is synonymous with YHWH, the only true God.
  3. Wrangler

    Revelation of Jesus Christ

    Well, there are many unorthodox Christians who understand it as Scripture tells it,[removed] Does it make sense to you that God has a God?
  4. Wrangler

    Rev 21:14 Names of 12 Apostles on the Foundations?

    Ya. Just because there are other sons and daughter of god does not change the fact that Jesus was the original.
  5. Wrangler

    Socalism & Christianity, a perfect match or a complete clash of ideologies?

    A complete clash of ideologies. Socialism is coercive and collectivist. Christianity is voluntary and individualistic. Christianity is concerned about the salvation of a single soul. See leaving the 99 sheep.
  6. Wrangler

    King James Version Only...?

    46 paragraphs! It reminds me of that episode in Friends, where Rachel wrote Ross a 14-page letter, both sides. Can you give us the 1-paragraph cliff notes version?
  7. Wrangler

    King James Version Only...?

    Great point! The accusation that modern Bibles have verses 'missing' is from the POV of KJV, which falsely added verses that were never there to begin with. Still relying on copy and pasting? Unable to digest the volume of words to a concise thesis? It's silly to expect your Superman fallacy...
  8. Wrangler

    Revelation of Jesus Christ

    Being 'called' something does not mean that one is that something. Besides 1 Timothy 3:16 does not say anything like that about Jesus. Your post is a Strawman. The point is only 'God the Father' is in Scripture. There is no 'God the Son' or 'God The Holy Spirit' in Scripture. Fact. My point is...
  9. Wrangler

    Revelation of Jesus Christ

    No. It does not say what you claim. Only God the Father is in Scripture and you proved it be invoking some riddle that you insist be taken as a substitute for anyone other than God the Father. 2 Cor 1:13 (VOICE) We are not writing to you in anything resembling codes or riddles
  10. Wrangler

    Revelation of Jesus Christ

    Not at all. What you quote does not even refer to Jesus.
  11. Wrangler

    Revelation of Jesus Christ

    That is EXACTLY the point I am trying to make. Not generally, exclusively.
  12. Wrangler

    Revelation of Jesus Christ

    Just ignore the explicit verse on point.
  13. Wrangler

    What Order Should a New Christian Read the Bible in?

    I consider reading the Bible a blessing, privilege and honor - not a duty. You should not have to cajole anyone to take advantage of privileges afforded us in our time. In ages past, many people could not read and even if they could, there were relatively very few books. I might have more books...
  14. Wrangler

    What Order Should a New Christian Read the Bible in?

    I fully agree with you Pearl. :) Yesterday I just finished reading 4 translations of the Bible, from cover to cover. But that is me. My Pastor pointed out last year that reading the whole Bible is NOT a command. In another thread, I referenced my devout Catholic grandmothers who walked with...
  15. Wrangler

    What Order Should a New Christian Read the Bible in?

    Bless your heart! It is not a fact but your very humble opinion. Since you are the world's foremost expert on the Bible, who could teach Jesus and God, himself a thing or two about what it contains and how to apply it, meditate on this Romans 14:1, 13, James 4:11-12. Again, I invite you to...
  16. Wrangler

    What Order Should a New Christian Read the Bible in?

    What a shame a simple question from a Brand NEW Christian, from a household of Atheists, leads to this vitriol. Not every thread needs to be a debate thread. Jax-y asked for opinions how best to start reading the Bible. We should be identified and known for our humility and love for one...
  17. Wrangler

    Rev 21:14 Names of 12 Apostles on the Foundations?

    Of course I believe Scripture. I just don’t believe you are applying it correctly. As I wrote in post #49, This is 100% besides the point - by definition. That subsequent, replacement Apostles are ‘numbered’ in no way means the original Apostles (including Judas) are not ‘numbered.’ If you...
  18. Wrangler

    Revelation of Jesus Christ

    No. Obviously not. I have no idea why you think those verses support your claim that the Father gave Jesus the Revelation. HINT: If you cannot cite a single verse, you are missing the mark. Your repeated reference to numerous verses shows you are relying on some kind of artificial dichotomy...
  19. Wrangler

    Doctrinal Clarity or vagueness?

    Your unrelenting commitment to mysticism is noted. Given that you too are human, it necessarily follows that YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND your own gibberish, being limited with human reasoning and all.