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Exactly. You conclude so concisely because Scripture is explicit. When Eve was created is not explicit. So, we could speculate all kinds of scenarios. Why don’t we speculate on when Eve was created but what happens after we are resurrected?

TOTALLY WRONG! The Bible says to leave the guy, not invoke all manner of coercive, harassing and manipulations to bring the guy back by any means.

No. It’s the exact opposite. He just wanted to be left alone by JW. They used his family to harass him and it made things much, MUCH worse for all concerned. Seems the JW coercion tactics brought out the worst in all concerned.

I is sure me canna butcher ‘da worsa. Point is, you be reading what ain’t there, for God did not say I is to Moses. So, there ain’t being no correlation, don’t you know? By contrast, explicit Scripture states Jesus is the son of God and his God has a personal name, which is not Jesus.

I’m not exactly sure what that means. It sounds like the introduction of why many call the JW a cult, invoking all manner of coercive manipulations, including guilt complexes. He could not care less how he is seen by JW elders. It’s too bad he did not know me then for the Wrangler surely...

Here, you might be falsely equating a girl who WAS sexually immoral (and got pregnant out of wedlock) with one actively engaging in sexual immorality. I realize the details of the event have not been forthcoming. However, several women on these boards questioned the wisdom of limiting marriage...

The question is, would you join Calvin in burning us? If not, why not?

This is the inevitable result of a lack of explicit Scripture. There is no such diversity regarding what day man was created on.

I'm not sure what kind of word play you got going there. See Nullification v Secession. It might explain why there is no dissension among the ranks. I understand there is an arduous process for one to leave the RCC. What is the process for one to leave JW? I guess my SIL could only find the...

Yes, Jesus will let us know. However, in the case of my SIL, it seems the Elders of JW acted on Jesus' behalf. The poor man now wants N-O-T-H-I-N-G to do with religion, let alone JW. And there are many others who've had such experiences. And they tell their stories. Hear me well, it is not...

Yes, you are late to the party. This was explained in detail. In short, a bad trinitarian translation does not ring true as Jesus is not God, not the creator and the verse to which you refer says in plain English that God created for, through and in connection to Jesus. See Post #16.

What a shame! When she needs community support more than ever, she is abandoned. As Aunty Jane said, there are 2 sides to every story. Maybe the elders thought it best to use her as an example to other unmarried young women.

Agreed, there are 2 sides to the story. That’s why I did not state my judgment on the matter, only what my SIL has said. To elaborate, he said he’s tried to leave several times and the acted the way he did to get effectively banished. No longer considering himself part of the religion, half...

I think the answer is to reinforce their Appeal to Majority fallacy of argumentation. They want only 1 small minority unorthodox Christian sect. An inconvenient truth that heterodoxy is growing in rejection of inherently contradictory dogma.

Since Jesus is not God, I guess we do have different saviors from an ignorant perspective, not a metaphysical perspective. The Bible identifies Jesus as the son of god, anointed by god and raised from the dead by God. The juxtapositions of God apart from Jesus is the strongest evidence that...

Yea, notice not a shred of Scriptural reference? The lesson of Original Sin is that knowledge is secondary. Faith in God through Jesus is the pathway to salvation. John 3:16. I've said many time there is no doctrinal purity (knowledge) test in Scripture. This is bad news for the 3-is-1...

I am VERY grateful she consistently points out error from trinitarian biased translators, yes. :D

JW stands for Jehovah Witness. My son-in-law and his family are/were. He says it is a cult. He and half his family have been ostracized. They only see the other half when the other half disregards the "shunning" they are supposed to do to the oscracized. He has 4 grandchildren of his parents...

A difference without a distinction. Saying I was or I am is still no claim of being God no matter how much you pretend it is.

This will be my last post with you on this, @Aunty Jane. Can you admit this is true, yes or no? If you prayed and meditated on these verses and still feel acting as a pedant is the way for you, I’ll leave you to it. Much love, sister.