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Ther is one answer that works God so loved the WORLD he gave his only begotten son, that whoever believes in him will not perish. But have eternal life God supplied the plan of salvation for everyone. But he will not force it on you. If he did that, we would be mad he made us robots. Which...

Romans 1 makes your point for you. No one has an excuse..

Sadly, I fear people like him is tracking a doctrine (osas) because it offends him, so he is to the point he is unable to see what it really teaches. So nothing we or anyone can say will convince him.

You can deny it all you want. It does not make it fact. You claim you can lose your salvation. In effect, if you can lose anything, you have to earn it. paul actually calls you a fool. Having begun in the spirit (faith) trying to perfect in works. (Gal 3) i know you won;t listen to me and...

True faith has works. You can bear false witness against me all you want. It just shows you need to repent of your breaking of Gods command. I do not believe in mere belief for salvation. james said their faith is dead. And Jude said their condemnation was for ordained. I answered the...

I am not the one depending n my ability to save myself by doing what I think is required to get to heaven, Thats you my friend. I am not delusional. if I was. i would think like you. That I could of my own power save myself.

lol the only people I know who teach osas is calvinist churches. a few baptist denominations. and som non denominations Catholic = nosas Lutheran = nosas Presbyterian as far as I know = nosas Methodist = nosas some baptist = nosas church of christ = nosas church of god = nosas mormon = nosas...

who are we? It does not matter what church you are. if you teach the gospel. your winning people to Christ. where 2 or 3 are gathered... The issue with many churches is they have lost their way. TImes have changed. yet the church wants to stay the same its not the message that is the problem...

yep. Its all about you. Your power. and your ability God is completely removed from the picture. Thats nosas for you

ok well even in christiandom. NOSAS is the most popular belief out there. I mean look at all the mainline christian churches. Even orthodoxy believes in nosas. Very few churches actually believe in salvation by grace alone through faith alone and not of works. to think the vast majority of...

many are not leaving God they are leaving the dead churches.

actually, if you look at all the worlds religions. NOSAS (the belief that salvation must be earned and can be lost) is the most popular belief, Be it Islam, Judaism, Mormanism, Catholicism etc etc.(the list goes on and on) True faith believers who solely rely on Christ to save them according to...

Take this response. Point it to a mirror And read it back to yourself Because it is very applicable to you also please not. I said I can not believe you. Not that I can not believe God.. You showed your true self by ignoring the rest of my post. I will pray for you

that about says it all

And you prove your inability to discern what people say. I never said such a thing. if you would have read what I said, you would have seen the following and remember, that is the post you are responding to. So it makes it twice as bad Think about it? I have Abraham was saved the moment...

I remember growing up as a kid and a visitor coming to church in Jeans, he was harassed by the deacons, and finally told to leave by the pastor. It saddens me to think that person may not come to Christ because of the legalism of the church.

Actually it is the opposite. Instead of being all things to all people. The orthodox christianity is stagnant. Trying to force people to do things their way. I hate rap music, I do not even call it music, But it makes me cringe There are some that feel that way about the slower classic music...

Going to Jail is being punished for a crime, It would be likened to being chastened by God. I don;t know maybe you have not been chastened before? Let me tell you its no fun. But its not the same as getting kicked out of your family because you screwed up. You know for sure God will kick you...

So they did not need saved?

Nope The blood of Christ makes you righteous.