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Do you create doctrines out of just one verse? That's lunacy. Other verses show that there is no brightness in it for unbelievers, but there is for believers. I take all of scripture into consideration instead of creating a doctrine out of one verse like you do. Your cherry picking approach is...

So, I take this as a yes? Why would you say this happens in the middle of the 70th week? Why would you think that "sudden destruction" takes 3.5 years? That doesn't seem very sudden to me.

Edit: Are you talking just about him both fighting truth and twisting truth or were you referring to both him and me fighting truth and twisting truth? I may have misunderstood that, as rwb pointed out. My point in my posts was to show that it is possible to believe in both amil and NOSAS...

You're even more arrogant than I thought. You think you are a prophet. I know you are not. Your interpretation of Daniel 9:24-27 is one of the worst interpretations of any scripture that I've ever seen. Again, God does not reveal truth to only one person. You are not nearly as special as you...

Yet, you are completely incapable of proving that, as you've shown repeatedly. You can't even discern that 1 Cor 15:42 is about the resurrection of the body despite the surrounding verses making that as clear as can be.

Do you believe that the day of the Lord will come unexpectedly as a thief in the night and will bring sudden destruction upon Christ's enemies from which they will not escape?

Great response. Really productive input from you, as usual.

So, can you tell us what parallels you see in the book of Revelation then? Is that really what it's saying? If that was the case then why does Jesus say this within the description of the sixth vial? Revelation 16:15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his...

What you're saying only applies to unbelievers. You're not looking at the whole story. The day of Christ and the day of the Lord are the same thing and refer to the day Christ returns in the future. It is a day of light for Christ's people who will be gathered to Him in the air on that day...

I disagree, but nevermind that for now. Where does Daniel 9 say anything about the day of the Lord? Yes, the rapture occurs on the day of the Lord, but so does Christ's wrath against His enemies which Paul described. 1 Thessalonians 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so...

Right. Not even close. What are we to pray to be worthy to escape? A 7 year time period of tribulation as pretribs believe? No. We should pray to be worthy to escape the wrath that will come down when Jesus comes. Luke 21:33 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. 34...

Who cares? That proves nothing. You're talking about Amil, so address the issue from the Amil perspective instead of Premil. Address my post #3 in the thread where I exposed the flaw in your logic if you want to be taken seriously about this. Is this the Soteriology forum or the Eschatology...

Great song. Now there's something we can all agree on (I hope).

You never have any idea of what you're talking about. And I mean literally never. It was taught from the beginning because it is taught in scripture. In relation to his belief in premillennnialism, Justin Martyr wrote this in about 155 AD in his "Dialogue with Trypho": "I and many others are...

No. Daniel 9 says nothing about the day of the Lord. Tell me how you are seeing the day of the Lord as being a 7 year time period in these passages: 1 Thessalonians 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3 For when they shall say, Peace and...

Agree. And I think that is extremely obvious and that only doctrinal bias can prevent someone from seeing something that is so obvious as this. Once you understand that the coming of Christ and our being gathered to Him occurs on "the day of Christ" (the day of the Lord) then it removes any...

Not at all. For you to think this shows that you have no understanding of what post-tribs believe. We are pre-wrath (what you call pretrib) just like you. How can we trust you that you understand scripture when you can't even understand what post-tribs believe? We agree that just as God's wrath...

LOL. I woud never be jealous of an arrogant person like you who thinks God reveals truth only to you. Instead, I feel sorry for you that you are so delusional.

This argument has always been and always will be total nonsense. Why can't you understand that? Haven't you noticed that every time you bring up this old, tired argument that no one agrees with you about it? This type of argument is made out of desperation. You want premil to be true, so you go...

First of all, no one said anyone was actually concerned. Paul was warning them not to be concerned about that IF they heard or read anyone saying that. But, please explain how you fully agree with that when you don't even believe the rapture is referenced in 2 Thess 2:2? How can you think that...