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  1. Wrangler

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    Well, only if the assumption is true that the trinity is valid. Said differently, you are working under the assumption that evidence against your doctrine should be disregarded as being presumptive, i.e., another Appeal to Ignorance. It's kind of odd that verses that contain all 3 are used as...
  2. Wrangler

    Church Bashing

    Well, my point was about you guarding against the apparent man hating in this forum. I'd have to know more details about the person who is harming his flock. Feel free to PM me.
  3. Wrangler

    Church Bashing

    True enough. As my previous post mentioned ... in today's politically correct environment.
  4. Wrangler

    Church Bashing

    In today's politically correct environment, I wonder if feminazi's would accept constant bashing of women under the pretext of 'it’s easier to type than men and women?' And what does that say about commitment to equality? P-e-o-p-l-e. Just 3 more letters than men. Not a big price to show your...
  5. Wrangler

    The Trinity

    Another outstanding analysis! I look forward to erudite responses from the peanut gallery.
  6. Wrangler

    HERESY?

    Strawman. Jesus died. This is how we know he is not God for it means that Jesus is changing, not eternal. Jesus knows he is not God and talked about his God with good reason. Just today I was reading Rev 3. He talks about his God over and over and over again. Jesus' God is the only God.
  7. Wrangler

    HERESY?

    This is not the doctrine of the trinity.
  8. Wrangler

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    Pot calling kettle black. The biggest trinitarian strawman argument is that the trinity is in the Bible when it is not. The trinity is the false doctrine and it is clear from the reliance of vague Scripture to 'support' way beyond what the word of God actually says, demanding an interpretation...
  9. Wrangler

    HERESY?

    I could but I won’t make my argument, your way.
  10. Wrangler

    HERESY?

    Bot the word, not the doctrine. No verse has the doctrine of the trinity. Of course, you have to lower the standard of the concept in looking at Scripture to merely existing but then expand it to beyond what Scripture says on the matter, a condition of salvation and equality, while ignoring what...
  11. Wrangler

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    I didn’t make an argument; just stated what I’m looking forward to. Regarding 2 separate individuals, a trinity is not made. :p Seriously though, you are going with ‘individual’ and forgoing the usual tedious ‘being’ persons?
  12. Wrangler

    HERESY?

    Do you?
  13. Wrangler

    HERESY?

    independent thought. For me, it started with a priest talking about the 1C. I realized the trinity violates the 1C. The more I read, the obvious it was how the trinity is a 4th century man-made construct having NOTHING to do with the word of God as evidenced by the trinity not being in the...
  14. Wrangler

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    Doh! I look forward to the Appeal to duality for the trinitarians to explain that! He was a servant of himself? He only took the form of a servant?
  15. Wrangler

    HERESY?

    I am not JW. Christ is the Messiah which means Anointed, Anointed by God. God does the Anointing. The man Jesus was acted upon by God in the Anointing. The Anointed is the means by which God establishes a holy relationship with his Creation. The Anointed is the Liberating King, the Savior of...
  16. Wrangler

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    Certainly this is a hijacking post. It is silly that Jesus conceived himself, sent himself, told himself what to say, asked himself to take the cup, only to refuse his request of himself to take the cup from himself. The mental gymnastics trinitarians must do to make sense of all that in their...
  17. Wrangler

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    Can you imagine how boring the world would be if everyone agreed about everything? :D I think @Hidden In Him referenced this is recognizing the CEV is a 'paraphrase' translation.* Point is, it is not wise to only fear one of many things that can negatively alter your future state. * Not to...
  18. Wrangler

    HERESY?

    Nope. It is a fact that Jesus died. It is also understood that God is eternal, never changing. Death is a major change. Therefore, one who changes is not eternal and not God. Do you grasp the difference between a logical conclusion and an "opinion?" That there are other facts about Jesus does...
  19. Wrangler

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    I reject, that is I cannot get my head around you making up stuff from whole cloth.
  20. Wrangler

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    I don't know what the JW position is on this verse.