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Wrong. Prophetic beasts refer to world kingdoms, not individuals. Daniel 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

Revelation 17:1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters: 2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the...

So, you have no interest in making any effort to present a clear argument. Okay then. That lets us know that you have no interest in being "Taken" seriously.

Total nonsense. You are clueless. So, just ignore what Justin Martyr said then. Amil is taught in scripture. It's no wonder that you don't want to just deal with scripture and are trying to support your view apart from scripture like this. I would do that, too, if my arguments were as weak as...

LOL. What is wrong with you? What is the point of these questions? I'm not going to waste time answering them when you won't even bother explaining why you are asking them. Why don't you instead exegete some scripture and show how scripture supports your view instead of wasting my time with your...

Are you incapable of exegeting scripture? You have no interest in showing exactly how scripture supports your view? You'd rather just make a bunch of statements that serve no purpose and prove nothing?

Well said. It's all very clear what will happen to those who say "Lord, Lord, open to us" when He comes and what happens to those who are left when you actually look at all of scripture instead of cherry picking verses. They will not get another chance at salvation as pretribs falsely claim...

LOL. How can anyone answer your incoherent nonsense? Communicate more clearly if you want a response.

You have chosen to take that literally for whatever reason. It's a figurative way of referring to the fact that their fate is sealed. On judgment day they will be cast into the lake of fire. Nothing can change that. When do you plan on showing me where scripture talks about the fall of the...

Is all you have to offer is this incoherent word salad in response to the original posts? He exegeted the scriptures and explained exactly how he interprets them and all you can come up with in response is whatever this is? Says it all about your doctrine.

LOL. You can't be taken seriously. Your arguments are extremely weak and you try to tell everyone else what to do as if you have any authority, which you don't. He does not need to make a chart. He explained his view with words. Just because you are not able to understand what you read doesn't...

So, I guess you have a problem, too, since you can't explicitly show that demons are not fallen angels? Where was the scripture again that speaks about the fall of demons? They must have once been good since everything God created was good. So, show me where scripture speaks of their fall if the...

I'm not ignoring your posts, but since you say that I am, then I will show you what it really means for me to ignore your posts.

If you're going to just make up lies like this, then I guess you have decided that you don't want to be taken seriously. Justin Martyr, a premil early church father, said this before the time when you're trying to claim that the Catholic Church started the Amil doctrine: ""I admitted to you...

If you're going to make claims like this, then back them up. Your opinions are worthless without supporting scripture. That's true of me and everyone else here as well. I believe scripture overwhelmingly supports post-trib and am just incredulous at you making the claim you did here, but you're...

That's a ridiculous claim that you can't back up with scripture. The following passages are clearly about the same event and Jesus Himself made it clear that the rapture will be post-trib. Mark 13:24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not...

They are not true believers when Jesus comes. He would not tell true believers that He doesn't know them. That's nonsense. But, you ignore that. What will happen to people like the foolish virgins who say "Lord, Lord, open to us" when He comes? You obviously haven't bothered to look and see...

That's all we're seeing in this thread from them, as expected. They don't even attempt to exegete scripture, which is quite telling. They know that scripture doesn't support their false pre-trib doctrine or else they would show how it does. They just want to believe in sudden emotional...

Prove what you're saying with scripture if you want to be taken seriously. If you don't want to be taken seriously, then just keep making claims like this while doing nothing to back them up.

LOL! I almost forgot about those ludicrous statements that they made. Those ridiculous interpretations of 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 say it all about how pretribbers are willing to do anything to make scripture say what they want it to say. The "sudden destruction" from which "they shall not...